Obama Calls for Repeal of Defense of Marriage Act

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    (CNSNews.com) - A sampling of Senate Democrats expressed sharply divergent views yesterday on whether they would support Sen. Barack Obama's (D-Ill.) call to "fully repeal" the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), which in the wake of this week's California Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex marriage as well as a similar 2003 decision by the high court of Massachusetts, would have the effect of legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide.

    Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.) said she would support Obama's position, while Sens. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) and Thomas Carper (D-Del.) said they would not. Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) expressed surprise that Obama had taken a position in favor of full repeal of DOMA.

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    I support Senator Obama on this issue. The government has no business getting involved in marriage. Churches need to work to prevent divorce. That is real defense of marriage.
     
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    In this area as in most areas, especially on the federal level, the separation of government and "whatever the issue" is the best policy.
     
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    So you have no problem with homosexual marriage?
     
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    The nation's foundation is the Family unit. Divorce is but one enemy of marriage and the others are the gay and lesbian lifestyle and the educational system.

    One is and always will be, fought on the home level, divorce.

    Sense there seems to be a concerted effort to make a God forbidden lifestyle law, it is not the Church that has drew the line of battle in the federal realm but the gay community. It is our duty as believers to meat the enemy at the battle front or let the enemy overrun our bulwarks (homes). Sense it is in the Courts, State Legislature and Congress then so be it, the battle must be met.

    The Educational system continues to undermine the family with its glaring, free sex education, anti God, anti creation and pro socialist indoctrination.

    We indeed have a three front assault on the traditional Biblical one man one woman family in this nation and we must fight it on all three levels. Do not lay your armor down my bothers and sisters, the battle is for our children.
     
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    Government has to be involved. How else would atheist get married? How would you make a divorce legal without courts? How would child custody be determined?

    Its great to be idealistic and say that as christians we shouldnt have to deal with these issues, but in reality we do.

    Also, your income taxes are based on your marital status, as well as retirement, social security, and even insurance. What about wills, and estates? They give legal rights to spouses......how would you resolve those issues?

    How in the world could yoiu leave the government out? It would be chaos.

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    They can order their affairs through the legal system. If marriage is holy matrimony why should Christians want the government involved in bestowing that designation in any way, shape, or form?
     
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    I am opposed to the idea of homosexual "marriage". However, even if the government continues to, unwisely, be involved in the church's area of marriage, how does the government calling the living together of two homosexuals a "marriage" endanger your marriage?
     
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    It does not undermine mine. However it provides the next step for the adoption of children. Then a whole generation is raised to degeneration and depravity.
     
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    Well, at one time we were "One nation, under God", but the secular progressives are changing that.....I just refuse to help them change it.

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    Part of the problem is that they won't be satisfied with being legally married. They want it to be a hate crime for me to preach that homosexuality is an abomination.
     
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    All nations are under God. There is nothing that man can do to change that.
     
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    How would a few children adopted by homosexual couples cause a whole generation to be raised degenerate or depraved(at least more than what we are all born with because of the fall of man in the Garden of Eden)?

    Personally, I have not made up my mind on allowing homosexual couples to adopt children. I think this may be a ballot issue in Arkansas on November 4 and, if so, I will listen to the arguments pro and con between now and then and decide how to vote.
     
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    Hate crime legislation is nonsense. People don't usually commit crimes out of love.

    Also, your preaching is protected by Amendment I.
     
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    Thats true, but our country is refusing to acknowledge that. Denying God will not make Him go away.

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    I think that the vast majority of Americans do acknowledge that.
     
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    Schools will be hand in hand with the Gay agenda even more so than what is being promoted now.

    Ken,

    You are the most puzzling fellow on this board for me. I have worn a bald spot on the back of my head trying to figure you out. A limited Government advocate that Ron Paul was and now you support all that the Dems do.
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    Since marriage is also a legal issue, then we need to address it that way. Otherwise non christians could never marry. The question for christians is, do we want to hand over to satan and his people what marriage is intended to be? To in effect hand over our country to satan and his people by not speaking up politically and saying no to gay marriage, saying no with our voice with our vote. To stand for Christ even in our secular world.
    I agree churches have responsibility. But we live in a secular world, and we can choose to be quite and let satan have the whole thing, or we can speak out.
    To repeal the defense of marriage act would be handing it all over to satan, giving in, here satan you win this one. Only an enemy of God would go against what God says in scripture.
     
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    1) If all schools are private, then your concern won't be an issue.

    2) Huh? On this issue you are the one advocating government involvement, not me. I want the government, especially the federal government, to stay out of the issue.

    This is the problem with a lot of issues - conservatives and liberals both want government to decide the issue and fight to get their way instead of leaving the matter in the hands of the people to work out through voluntary association and the marketplace.
     
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    Sure they can. I expect there would be churches who would do so.

    Besides, if marriage is truly to be regarded as holy matrimony, why would a non-Christian, or at least a non-religious person, want to participate in an act they don't believe in?

    Maybe the main problem regarding marriage today is that people, including a lot of Christians worldwide, no longer regard it as being holy matrimony.
     

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