Obama Gets Preachy

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  1. Crabtownboy

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    If I were president this is one of the ways I would worship.

     
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    So, if BO cares about "worship", what is his excuse for not holding the National Day of Prayer at the WH? Seems like it would be a perfect time for him to pray with other believers IF he really wanted to.
     
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    Worship, as in real worship, is more private than that. Show is show and I have never been impressed with such shows. Shows are for politics, not for worship ... IMHO.

    Would you rather he not worship at all?
     
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    So, then, by your definition of worship, is this worship?

     
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    I an not sure what you mean by "is this worship"? Can you elaborate on this for me?

    To me big, publicly announced meeting of politicians for 'worship' or days of prayer strike me as very close to the parable Jesus told of the Pharisee and the Publican. My guess is most of he really do not want to be there, but it is an opportunity to be seen, and politicians love to be seen.

    From you other comment, I assume you did not read the article which spoke, briefly it is true, of the problems caused when it was learned that Obama was going to go to the Easter service at the church in SE DC. People lining up at 3:30 a.m. in the morning to be sure they got a seat or got in the church. Somehow I doubt that many of them were really concerned with worship. What do you think?
     
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    I don't know how you don't understand. Let me break it down for you.

    Is a publically announced event where you invite approximately 80 Christian leaders worship? You've said that publically announced meetings of politicians for worship is not worship. Is a publically announced meeting of "Christian leaders" worship? You've also said that "Worship, as in real worship, is more private than that.". Is this publically announced meeting with "Christian leaders" worship, given that it's not really private?
     
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    I guess I should have added televised. If the Tuesday worship is to be broadcast on the radio or TV ... they I would not consider it worship. Of course if it was not publicly announced then Obama would be criticized for not being transparent. I do not believe he is legally bound to publish his daily schedule, but can you imagine what reporters would write or say if he didn't.

    If I were president I don't know that I would invite 80 Christian leaders to my personal worship time. I'll have to think about that. Would I have one pastor come to be with me each time or invite different pastors each week? I am not sure what I would do in that regard.

    I probably would go to Camp David every weekend I could and have private time alone in the mountain to be with my God. I find time alone with God to be much more worshipful than listening to a sermon. Discussion can also be very worshipful.

    Where have you found worship most meaningful?
     
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    As POTUS, BO is going to cause a public stir wherever he goes. There's really no way around that. That's why it doesn't make sense for him to hold an "Easter breakfast" but ignore the National Day of Prayer. Both will be in the media.

    Crabby, while I agree that some politicians do love the spotlight, that doesn't apply to everyone involved in the national day of prayer, nor does it mean such events should not be held. What better way for our political leaders to publicly demonstrate some much needed humility, by joining other Christians in prayer?

    BO has already caused much offense to Christians by declaring that America is not a Christian nation, and by demanding Christian symbols be covered during his speeches. If he had any sense at all, he would WANT to mend his fences by welcoming such events as the national day of prayer.
     
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    He may have caused a stir in some circles by saying America is not a Christian nation, but IMHO I believe he is right. Less than 50% of the citizens of America attend church regularly and that percentage is dropping. More and more violence and soft pornography is being shows on TV programs. Profanity is growing in use in the media. It is all very sad, but IMHO we are becoming less and less a Christian nation.
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    So now anything that is televised is not worship?
     
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    That is an amazing leap of logic. It might be interesting to discuss, 'what is worship'.
     
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    How am I leaping anywhere? I'm simply going by what you said. I quote (without the dumb fonts):

    According to your own words, if it is broadcast on radio or TV, then it is not worship.
     
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    <Sigh> Whatever.
     
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    Yes, whatever. It's difficult to have to stand by your own words, isn't it?
     
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    Forsake not the assembling of yourselves together...

    IF our POTUS is a Christian...

    He is definitely out of the will of God..

    For he is forsaking the assembling together for worship...

    Yes, you can worship in private, but this is a command in the NT to worship corporately...

    Sooo... He needs to repent and assemble. If not, he has no anointing on his life.

    Unless he writes his own executive order anointing himself....
     
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    Oh, he had a day of prayer. It was for Muslims and it was held on the White House lawn.

    'Nuff said.
     
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    To paraphrase another well known quote: "Christian is as Christian does!":rolleyes:

    And no, we're not judging -we're inspecting fruit!!!:tongue3:
     

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