Obama has sliced 16% off of Clinton lead nationally

Funny how it is different when it is your issue(s).

 

Ken, you say that, but your possible support of Obama over basically one issue speaks otherwise.

You said it yourself, and now you gotta back track...

You can try to explain it away all you like, but you know you just got caught doing the same thing you claim others do with abortion.

And for the record I am not a one-issue voter. Abortion is an important issue for me, but it is not the only one. For example, I would have voted for Guiliani if he had gotten the nomination even though I disagree with him on social issues.

 

:laugh: Ok Ken, if you say so.

(You got caught and you know it) :saint:

Have a good day Ken. :wavey:

 

I suppose I am one that would "get caught" too. I could find myself voting for Obama if it were between him and McCain.

I just can't stand the thought of another four years of what Bush wanted, wars and policing the world. I will vote for a Democrat before I let that happen with my vote.

I am a Ron Paul supporter true and through, but given he isn't going to win, when he drops out, I will use my vote to get as close to getting out of this war as I can.

Will Obama get us out? I don't know. Will McCain? No.

As far as the othr issues.. the two parties are so closely tied together behind the scenes that it really doesn't matter to the average Joe. Abortion, Gay rights, Health care.. all the "hot" issues haven't been changed by either party more so than the other. They are all corrupt and none of them are looking out for our "best interest".

So call my a flaip flop. Call me whatever you want, but I am voting my mind and heart. The GOP has sadly given us no great option. What do you expect when you're given nothing to begin with.

Jamie

 

Jamie, you and Ken and whoever has the right to vote for anyone you choose. I have no problem with that.

I just find it amazingly ironic that Ken has criticized so many for being one issue voters (ie abortion) and then he gets caught in supporting Obama over one issue.

I still do not understand how those who support Ron Paul could even possibly support Obama. If you do not want McCain or one of the other GOP candidates then vote 3rd party.

 

Good to hear. I didn't really think you were a gestapo type person.

Ok, I can understand your questioning then.

No, I will vote for Ron Paul until he drops out, and then I will not "waste" my vote in November. I want out of this war and any others over the horizon that isn't warranted. Obama would get us closer to that than McCain I believe. Paul would get us there completely but he won't win.

Jamie

 

Ken, see things as you wish. I think pretty much every objective poster around here can clearly see what you said:

Then you realized what you had done and you backpedaled fast.

It is not really that hard to see. Explain it away as you wish. Say I am lying as you wish.

 

Ken? Is that you?

Seriously, Obama's creation of a national healthcare plan, forcing employers to pay additional payroll taxes for a healthcare plan/exchange, mandatory coverage for families who have children, mandatory requirements for insurance underwriters to cover children up to 25 on their parents' plans, expansion of MEDICAID and SCHIP, required mandatory reporting from private doctors and hospitals regarding "preventable medical errors"(What the heck is that?), a stronger push to mandatory universal Electronic Health Record, mandatory fines against insurers and drug providers whose prices exceed arbitrary levels....these are liberterian? Not the liberterian positions I know.
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/

I do agree with his ideas to allow more generics, the reimportation from Canada, and more competition.

 

I think he was a Romney promoter before he switched to Paul, but I may have misremembered.

 

Ken, as long as you have people like Carpro railing against you, it means you must be correct on most of the issues. Keep up the good work!

BTW, I like Obama too. Of course this comes from a fellow flip-flopper. :laugh: I used to be supporting Hillary Clinton, but I have changed my mind.

 

Uh huh, sure.

 

Hey Ken,

At least you have stood for someone, even if your picks did change as new information came out, or as your pick faded to a point of being unelectable.

There are people on this board that have yet to pick ANY person to support. I find that to be more irresponsible than having to change your pick.

Jamie

 

If the GOP leadership had good sense, maybe they would have gotten behind Elizabeth Dole for President in 1999, instead of what we wound up with.

 

Jamie..so let me understand you correctly. You find it more appealing if person X supported candidate A, then chose to support candidate B, then changed to candidate C, as opposed to person Y who is weighing the pros and cons and still listening as the candidates speak?

Mind you, your original reference was to Ken's support of Romney then switching to Paul (I have no problem with Ken doing that, and I know Ken is relieved to have my approval :smilewinkgrin But why the swipe at undecideds? Seems a little out of sorts to me.