Obama is a racist

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bro. Curtis, Mar 20, 2008.

  1. Bro. Curtis

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    "... .. The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person who, uh, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know there's a reaction that's been been bred into our experiences that don't go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way and that's just the nature of race in our society. We have to break through it..." - Senator Barack Obama


    I dare any liberal to tell me they'd let anyone get away with saying anyone was a "typical black person".

    I'm glad Obama has brought race into this election. I have learned a lot.
     
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    Give it a rest! Obama is no more a racist than you or I.
     
  3. Bro. Curtis

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    Then 'splain the statement. Why is it OK for him ? What if Limbaugh had said this ?

    Not only does he appear to be a racist more & more everyday, the contortions people are putting themselves thru to ignore it are starting to give them cramps.
     
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    You closet racists are so afraid of a black man as president that you'll stoop as low as it takes. Pathetic!
     
  5. Bro. Curtis

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    The difference is, I back up what I say, and you throw drive-by insults.


    Come on, MP, tell me you'd let Limbaugh say this.....try being honest. Either he is a racist, or he is dumb beyond words. I vote the former. I have posted up history on several threads with links to show why I feel he is a racist. Exactly, what is it that makes me a racist, in your eyes, MP ? Be specific, please.

    Or retract the accusation.
     
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    Funny...when someone points out the racist side of Obama...the Obama-ites counter with "if you don't support him, YOU are the racist". :rolleyes:

    And from Christians, nonetheless :eek:
     
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    Why not answer the question instead of go on a witch hunt and accuse the asker of racism because he brought it up? The quote of Obama about "typical white" and inbred reactions appears to be legitimate. So was Limbaugh's when he was on Monday Night Football in saying the NFL 'wanted' a black man to be a star QB like Donovan McNabb. Are both racist? are neither? or is one, and which one?
     
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    Micheal Irvin (sp ?), who is either in the NFL Hall of Fame, or will be on his first ballot, was in complete agreement with Limbaugh when it was said. Was he being a racist ? No he wasn't. Like Alcott just said, Rush was pointing out a media bias, and the media did not like it. So they accused him of the racism, and accepted no other viewpoint.

    Typical white person ?

    Now don't get me wrong. This statement doesn't make me like him any less,I'm just stating a fact. Putting any racial group in a box is supposed to be offensive, I've been told.

    I wonder what he teaches his daughters about "typical white peple" ?

    This man has zero business in the White House.
     
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    I completely agree with you on this!

    Obama's "major speech on race" was nothing more than a major attempt to buy votes from those who'd stand to gain from the policies he'd advance. It is essential to this cause that black people be made out to be victims of "rich white men" and that voters perceive a need and means for government to resolve this "injustice". This also appeals very much to those that believe government is the answer to all social and economic problems mankind faces. Resolution, of course, means more government programs and positions to reward for those that supported the "cause". The cost is more taxes, less liberty, and more senseless and stupid programs.

    The fact is all citizens of this nation - regardless of race - already have the means to secure for themselves what they need if only they take responsibility for it and persevere against the challenges including some inevitable bias that will always exist between different groups of people. Various groups of various demographics have developed individual and group cultural attitudes and dependencies that limit them from success. They must shed these shackles of their own free will.

    Further, Obama's beliefs are rooted in "black liberation theology" - a black man-centered social gospel verses the true Christ-centered gospel - and that's not what this nation needs from its government. This social gospel is about advancing the cause of one race at the expense of another. That with any other combination of color would be immediately struck down for what it was.
     
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    I don't get it, why couldn't someone say typical black person to try and discribe and average black person in this country. Is this offensive to anyone?
     
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    We have come to the point where the following "definitions" could actually be true:

    "The phrase "typical black person" is a negative racial stereotype constituting racism on the part of the speaker or writer. All black persons should immediately be offended by it and the speaker or writer should be fired, imprisoned, and executed. All liberty and tolerance should be put aside. The exception, of course, is that this phrase becomes fully acceptable - even humorous - if the source is also a black person. This also applies to various other derogatory terms.

    The phrase "typical white person" is an appropriate descriptor to be used when you want to define the inferior traits of a white person - especially if in contrast to a black person - such as bigotry, hatred, fear, ignorance, etc. that are inherent in all white persons. This is normally okay and even a mark of fine oration if it's part of a "major speech on race" and the speaker or writer is black. It will not cause any major turmoil and should not be received as an offensive comment by any white person. White persons are required to tolerate these comments and give up their liberty to speak out against it. This also applies to various other derogatory terms."

    But then again many of us aren't going to accept it and aren't going to remain silent about it!
     
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    Uh- Just because I might choose to describe my own parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles, and only brother in some way, even a 'stereotypical' way, because I knew them intimately, does not even begin to mean I am going to allow anyone else, especially someone that did not know them, to get away with doing the same thing, especially now that they are all no longer around and able to defend themselves.

    Ed
     
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    Yes, he is a racist..
    I wouldn't stay in a church with a racist pastor... I can't stand racism...
    It cut both ways...

    But there is a deeper problem than this...

    Liberation theology is a false heretical doctrine, I don't care if it is white liberation, or black liberation... it teaches that sin will be done away with if we get the right social programs and political actions in place.. we can have a utopia...

    We believe in the evangelical gospel... Christ died to take away my sins.
    Liberation gospel says we can take them away with the right education and social programs...
    IOWS, if people were not poor, they would not need to steal, kill, etc...

    It is a false doctrine, and Obama's church teaches this.... Hence the name "liberation theology"

    And this explains Obama's speech in the church in SC, where he said that he wants to create a kingdom...

    He is believing a false doctrine...
    And it may be endangering his soul.

    This is why he wants to socialize everything... his core belief system is heretical.... because he learned it from the wrong guy.. mr. Wright.... lol.

    A lot of young people are buying into this...

    Nickleback has a song.... (I actually like it) but it is liberation theology...

    If everyone cared http://www.elyrics.net/read/n/nickelback-lyrics/if-everyone-cared-lyrics.html
    From underneath the trees, we watch the sky
    Confusing stars for satellites
    I never dreamed that you'd be mine
    But here we are, we're here tonight

    Singing Amen, I, I'm alive
    Singing Amen, I, I'm alive

    [Chorus:]
    If everyone cared and nobody cried
    If everyone loved and nobody lied
    If everyone shared and swallowed their pride
    Then we'd see the day when nobody died

    And I'm singing

    Amen I, Amen I, I'm alive
    Amen I, Amen I, Amen I, I'm alive

    And in the air the fireflies
    Our only light in paradise
    We'll show the world they were wrong
    And teach them all to sing along

    Singing Amen, I, I'm alive
    Singing Amen, I, I'm alive
    (I'm alive)

    [Chorus x2]

    And as we lie beneath the stars
    We realize how small we are
    If they could love like you and me
    Imagine what the world could be

    If everyone cared and nobody cried
    If everyone loved and nobody lied
    If everyone shared and swallowed their pride
    Then we'd see the day when nobody died
    When nobody died...

    [Chorus]

    We'd see the day, we'd see the day
    When nobody died
    We'd see the day, we'd see the day
    When nobody died
    We'd see the day when nobody died
     
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    Are you guys saying typical = derogatory term?

    I also don't understand how "typical white person" can only be used to define the inferior traits of a white person. Why couldn't it just imply average? Maybe it's the area where I live but I don't see anything wrong with these terms.
     
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    A typical anything is lumping an entire group together...stereotyping. That is like saying "typical black people" are the ones in prison. It is an underlying racist statement.
     
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    It's not just the use of the term typical. The quote seems to imply latent racist tendencies in the "typical white person."

    If I implied that the "typical black person" had latent tendencies toward something negative, I'd get run out on a rail. Why? It's stereotyping.

    I don't think Obama was intending to be racist, but it didn't come out smoothly.
     
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    It is saying "are the ones in proson" that appears to be the problem to me. Not only did you group them you have now said the average or majority are criminals which is not only wrong but creates the offence.

    So using this example it was "who, uh, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know there's a reaction that's been been bred into our experiences that don't go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way and that's just the nature of race in our society" that makes his statement offensive.

    More specifically, "reaction that's been been bred into our experiences that don't go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way".

    I see...
     
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    He said a "reaction that's been been bred into our experiences"

    I think you would be right had he of said a reaction bred in white people but he said OUR experiences. I think the word OUR brings all people of all races into the equation. I could be wrong...
     
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    The reaction is of the "typical white person."
     
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    Wow, the more news I read the more I see this statement made a big negative impact. I also see he lost 18 points in the poll going from an 8 point lead to a 10 point deficite to McCain.

    Is he coming apart at the seams...?
     

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