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Obama-McCain Town Hall Debates?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by targus, Sep 13, 2008.

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  1. targus

    targus New Member

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    That was then - June 2008:

    "Oh, we're definitely going to be doing some town hall debates," the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee told ABC "World News" anchor Charlie Gibson.

    Indicating he's not prepared to start debating McCain next week, as McCain's campaign had formally requested, Obama expressed interest in going head to head with the presumptive Republican presidential nominee as soon as his campaign fully pivots toward the general election.

    "I look forward to, you know, having more than just the three traditional debates that we've seen in recent presidential contests," he said.

    http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Politics/story?id=4999288&page=1


    This is now:

    "Due to the late date of the two parties' nominating conventions, and the relatively short period between the end of the conventions and the first proposed debate, it is likely that the four Commission debates will be the sole series of debates in the fall campaign. Consequently, we believe that finalizing the arrangements for these debates with promptness and certainty is in the interests of both campaigns and the American people."

    http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/08/plouffe_taps_rahm_emanuel_to_n.html


    Aren't the interests of the American people best served by seeing the actual candidates and hearing their own words in a live unscripted format?

    Why the change of heart?
     
    #1 targus, Sep 13, 2008
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    It's called being chicken. He can't perform well without scripts and styrofoam pillers. :laugh:
     
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  3. Crabtownboy

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    And is it all right to lie about your opponent if he refuses to debate? That was McCain's defense when ask about the negativity and lies told about Obama by his campaign. He won't have a town meeting with me, so that means I can lie about him. Give me a break!

    http://news.aol.com/elections/artic...e/172718?icid=200100397x1209475590x1200563216


    Why won't McCain give a press conference? Is he chicken?
     
    #3 Crabtownboy, Sep 13, 2008
  4. Bro. Curtis

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    You don't go on "The View" with the man-hating cackling hens and hold your own unless yer a ROOSTER.
     
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    Don't know, I never watch "The View." In fact I watch little TV and discount almost any news I see there except for "The News Hour." The News Hour usually has people from both sides interviewed.

    The point is McCain did go on "The View" and when call out telling lies about Obama tried to justifiy it with the lame excuse "He won't talk with me."

    Again, why won't McCain hold press conferences. He used to love them.

    Hmmm, are you a woman-hating cackling rooster?:laugh:
     
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  6. Bro. Curtis

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    Are you capable of honest debate ?
     
    #6 Bro. Curtis, Sep 13, 2008
  7. Crabtownboy

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    That is always in the eye of the holder.
     
    #7 Crabtownboy, Sep 13, 2008
  8. Bro. Curtis

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    Well, this beholder doubts it.

    Take care, CTB.
     
    #8 Bro. Curtis, Sep 13, 2008
  9. Crabtownboy

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    And as a traditional Baptist I will defend your right to believe that.

    Of course very conservative people do not think anyone is honest who does not agree with all their jots and tiddles. I entered quotes, gave a source and ask a few questions. You responded with one liners of no content ... which I do not find very honest in debates.
     
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  10. targus

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    From your AOL link.

    "The defense from the candidate himself — heard only on “The View” because he hasn’t held a press conference in over a month — is to essentially claim he’s savaging Obama because the Illinois senator wouldn’t agree to the series of town hall meetings McCain proposed at the end of the Democratic primary season."

    "essentially claim"?

    What was the actual claim?

    So you take an editorialized characterization - without the benefit of the actual words used and then recast "savaging Obam" - into "so that means I can lie about him."

    Give me a break indeed.

    Get back to us when you have the actual words that were used.

    BTW - how about addressing the topic?

    Enough with the red herrings.
     
    #10 targus, Sep 13, 2008
  11. LeBuick

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    I guess this is fair since Palin went two weeks before having a one on one interview with of all people Charlie Gibson. It was said she wasn't prepared either.

    We know that town hall meetings is McCain's strong suit so I assume Obama will have to drop a few more points in the polls before he will agree to a meeting like this.
     
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    I think the logic is if he pushes Obama hard enough he will agree to the town hall meetings to confront these accusations face to face. I could be wrong...

    @Bro. Curtis = The view is normally friendly to political candidates which is why the show yesterday really surprised me as much as McCain. I think he was really caught off guard...
     
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  13. targus

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    Crabtownboy, I started a new thread entitled "McCain on The View"

    Let's take your red herring over there and discuss it and leave this thread to the topic at hand.
     
    #13 targus, Sep 13, 2008
  14. LeBuick

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    He LE, does this also qualify for your chicken remark? Just wondering if it goes both ways...
     
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  15. KenH

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    There will be a town hall meeting - October 7 in Nashville, Tennessee.
     
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  16. targus

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    Right - that is one of the three debates.

    Granted it is in a town hall format - but three debates is hardly what the American voters deserve.

    How many debates were there during the primaries?
     
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  17. KenH

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    Those debates took place over a year timeframe and mainly on the cable news networks, not over two months and in prime time on ABC, CBS, NBC, and Fox.

    How many people watched the primary debates? A bunch of debates would lose audience over time. The vast majority of people are not political junkies.
     
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  18. targus

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    Then why did Obama say this?

    "Oh, we're definitely going to be doing some town hall debates," the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee told ABC "World News" anchor Charlie Gibson.

    Indicating he's not prepared to start debating McCain next week, as McCain's campaign had formally requested, Obama expressed interest in going head to head with the presumptive Republican presidential nominee as soon as his campaign fully pivots toward the general election.

    "I look forward to, you know, having more than just the three traditional debates that we've seen in recent presidential contests," he said.
     
    #18 targus, Sep 13, 2008
  19. LeBuick

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    You did notice this artile was from 8/82008 which is before either chose a running mate.

    I still believe Obama position may change if McCain goes too much higher in the polls. I'm betting his advisor's talked him out of it while he was way ahead but not that it's close it is in everyone's interest to tell their story and defend their position.
     
    #19 LeBuick, Sep 13, 2008
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    I think it's a rattlesnake pit,and he should have known better.
     
    #20 Bro. Curtis, Sep 13, 2008
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