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Obama MOCKS the Bible and Jesus....

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by righteousdude2, Oct 31, 2009.

  1. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
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    Listen, I know I was going to leave the Board to write my book, but this video came up, and I couldn't let it pass. I have not been able to prove, or, disprove it on Snopes.com, but, if it is real, it is just one more element that makes it look like we've placed the wrong guy in the WH.....what do you think???

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi-V_ilJu0w&feature=youtube_gdata


    A Bonus Quote from Newt Gingrich:

    "As an American I am not so shocked that Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize without any accomplishments to his name, but that America gave him the White House based on the same credentials." - - Newt Gingrich


    Finally, a few thoughts from Dr. Krauthammer

    There is one small thing left out of his biography (here) . He was a Quadriplegic BEFORE he became a Doctor (MD), yet he still became the Chief of Psychiatry at Massachusetts General Hospital , one of the greatest medical institutions in the USA .

    Dr. Krauthammer is on Fox News. He is an M.D. and a lawyer and is paralyzed from the neck down. A friend went to hear Charles Krauthammer. He listened with 25 others in a closed room. What he says here, is NOT 2nd-hand but 1st. The ramifications are staggering for us, our children and their children.

    Last Monday was a profound evening; Dr. Charles Krauthammer spoke to the Center for the American Experiment. He is a brilliant intellectual, seasoned & articulate. He is forthright and careful in his analysis, and never resorts to emotions or personal insults. He is NOT a fear monger nor an extremist in his comments and views. He is a fiscal conservative, and has received a Pulitzer Prize for writing. He is a frequent contributor to Fox News and writes weekly for the Washington Post ( a very liberal newspaper ).
    The entire room was held spellbound during his talk. I have summarized his comments, as we are living in uncharted waters economically and internationally. Even 2 Dems at my table agreed with everything he said! If you feel like forwarding this to those who are open minded and have not drunk the Kool-Aid, feel free.

    Summary of his comments:

    1. Mr. Obama is a very intellectual, charming individual. He is not to be underestimated. He is a cool customer who doesn't show his emotions. It's very hard to know what's behind the mask. The taking down of the Clinton dynasty was an amazing accomplishment. The Clintons still do not understand what hit them. Obama was in the perfect place at the perfect time.

    2. Obama has political skills comparable to Reagan and Clinton. He has a way of making you think he's on your side, agreeing with your position, while doing the opposite. Pay no attention to what he SAYS; rather, watch what he DOES!

    3. Obama has a ruthless quest for power. He did not come to Washington to make something out of himself, but rather to change everything, including dismantling capitalism. He can't be straightforward on his ambitions, as the public would not go along.
    He has a heavy hand, and wants to level the playing field with income redistribution and punishment to the achievers of society. He would like to model the USA to Great Britain or Canada.

    4. His three main goals are to control ENERGY, PUBLIC EDUCATION, and NATIONAL HEALTHCARE by the Federal government. He doesn't care about the auto or financial services industries, but got them as an early bonus. The cap and trade will add costs to everything and stifle growth. Paying for FREE college education is his goal. Most scary is his healthcare program, because if you make it FREE and add 46,000,000 people to a Medicare-type single-payer system, the costs will go through the roof. The only way to control costs is with massive RATIONING of services, like in Canada . God forbid!

    5. He has surrounded himself with mostly far-left academic types. No one around him has ever even run a candy store. But they are going to try and run the auto, financial, banking and other industries. This obviously can't work in the long run. Obama is not a socialist; rather he's a far-left secular progressive bent on nothing short of revolution. He ran as a moderate, but will govern from the hard left. Again, watch what he does, not what he says.

    6. Obama doesn't really see himself as President of the United States , but more as a ruler over the world. He sees himself above it all, trying to orchestrate & coordinate various countries and their agendas. He sees moral equivalency in all cultures. His apology tour in Germany and England was a prime example of how he sees America , as an imperialist nation that has been arrogant, rather than a great noble nation that has at times made errors. This is the first President ever who has chastised our allies and appeased our enemies!

    7. He is now handing out goodies. He hopes that the bill (and pain) will not come due until after he is reelected in 2012. He would like to blame all problems on Bush from the past, and hopefully his successor in the future. He has a huge ego, and Dr. Krauthammer believes he is a narcissist.

    8. Republicans are in the wilderness for a while, but will emerge strong. Republicans are pining for another Reagan, but there will never be another like him. Krauthammer believes Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty & Bobby Jindahl (except for his terrible speech in February) are the future of the party. Newt Gingrich is brilliant, but has baggage. Sarah Palin is sincere and intelligent, but needs to really be seriously boning up on facts and info if she is to be a serious candidate in the future. We need to return to the party of lower taxes, smaller government, personal responsibility, strong national defense, and state's rights.

    9. The current level of spending is irresponsible and outrageous. We are spending trillions that we don't have. This could lead to hyperinflation, depression or worse. No country has ever spent themselves into prosperity. The media is giving Obama, Reid and Pelosi a pass because they love their agenda. But eventually the bill will come due and people will realize the huge bailouts didn't work, nor will the stimulus package. These were trillion-dollar payoffs to Obama's allies, unions and the Congress to placate the left, so he can get support for #4 above.

    10. The election was over in mid-September when Lehman brothers failed, fear and panic swept in, we had an unpopular President, and the war was grinding on indefinitely without a clear outcome. The people are in pain, and the mantra of change caused people to act emotionally. Any Dem would have won this election; it was surprising it was as close as it was.

    11. In 2012, if the unemployment rate is over 10%, Republicans will be swept back into power. If it's under 8%, the Dems continue to roll. If it's between 8-10%, it will be a dogfight. It will all be about the economy. I hope this gets you really thinking about what's happening in Washington and Congress. There is a left-wing revolution going on, according to Krauthammer, and he encourages us to keep the faith and join the loyal resistance. The work will be hard, but we're right on most issues and can reclaim our country, before it's far too late.

    Do yourself a long term favor; send this to all who will listen to an intelligent assessment of the big picture. All our futures and children's futures depend on our good understanding of what is really going on in DC, and our action pursuant to that understanding!! It really IS up to each of us to take individual action!! Start with educating your friends and neighbors!!!

    Martin T. Girling, DPM, FACFAS
    Watch your thoughts; they become words.
    Watch your words; they become actions.
    Watch your actions; they become habits.
    Watch your habits; they become character.
    Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.


    Shalom,

    Pastor Paul :type:
     
  2. annsni

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    I heard President Obama make those statements and I remember my husband and I looking at each other and saying "Poor man thinks he's going to heaven???"
     
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    The link doesn't seem to work.
     
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    annsni Well-Known Member
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    I just copied and pasted to the URL.
     
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    In our worst moments as human beings it's easy to think that way about anyone but then I remember God's grace and mercy.
     
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    When one mocks the Word of God to the entire world, he does not have the Spirit of God within.
     
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    Considering the mocking comments made toward President Obama and other folks on this board at times...

    Yeah, they aren't the Bible, and they are deserving of criticism by limited government folks, but still...

    I'm sure I'll get ripped for not going along with the piling on of the president, but that's okay. No one on this board is my Judge.
     
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    Don't know when anyone said they were. STILL it seems you have a persecution complex.
    You might not like it, but people are still free to criticize the government, including Obama.
    ('Limited government folks',? You mean the ones who believe in the constitution?
    Piling on of the president? Or people stating their minds about Obama according to the U.S. Constitution? (1st Admendment.)
    Please clarify.
     
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    I don't care WHO says it. To say what he said is wrong. Unfortunately, it's a common feeling amongst the lost.
     
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    Regardless of the subject matter, is "OMG" appropriate for a thread title on the BB?
     
  11. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Of which I am one. The point is that we need to concentrate on spreading alternatives to the president's programs, not bashing him personally.

    But I have no doubt that some of fellow Christians will continue to bash the president personally. That is, of course, their constitutional right - and I wouldn't have it any other way.
     
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    No, but it's only a problem if it was posted by President Obama. :laugh:
     
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    No, the phrase it not appropriate for this forum. It may not be taking the Lord's name in vane, but it certainly is using it in a frivolous way.

    In the first posting, I believe it was number 11 of the points. It makes no sense for the American people to return Republicans to power in 2012 after the Democrats fail. These are the same Republicans and just logged the most pitiful performance for a eight year period in our life times. Until we elect people the want to govern by the Constitution, nothing will change. That means new blood, new parties. It will do no good to put the same liberal, inept bunch back in power.
     
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    One could view it as a brief prayer!
     
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    and this is compared to God... how?
     
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    Although you weren't concerned for the bashing of Bush.
     
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    If you listen to what he is saying, he's not necessarily mocking the Bible or Jesus. He's ridiculing a certain kind of political interpretation of the Bible.

    It goes both ways. When the left starts talking about the poor, the right starts talking about family values. Both agendas have their references.
     
  18. righteousdude2

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    You Are SO Right....

    AMEN!!!!

    Shalom, and thanks for making the correction so people can get to the link!

    Pastor Paul
     
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    Gee, you mean we agree we should concentrate on getting rid of Obama's programs?
    The world is truly coming to an end.:laugh:

    On the other hand, I just saw a couple of SNL skits that were actually funny. I haven't laughed at SNL since the first year, so I might be going Alatide....I mean senile.:laugh:

    (However, the music lady they had on was pretty hot. Never heard of her before.)
     
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    What Goes Around, Comes Around???

    Hey Ken,

    Obama continues to blame Bush for everything that comes down the pike. I believe that the critics will ease up when HE GROWS UP and starts taking some responsibility for his presidency. I don't remember Bush blaming Clinton everytime he spoke?

    Charles Krauthammer hits-it-out-of-the-park with the following Commentary:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/29/AR2009102903920.html
     
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