Obama no shoo-in, says conservative author

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  1. Revmitchell

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    "I think Barack Obama is going to have a hard time putting together a coalition to win," says the author. "He is very liberal ... more liberal than Hillary Clinton -- which is a hard thing to say, but is definitely the fact. And I think that his cultural attitudes are very much out of touch with a lot of the American people."

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  2. KenH

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    A conservative author wrote that????

    Well, in other news, dog bites man.
     
  3. Magnetic Poles

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    Yep, kind of like reporting "Haliburton CEO Says No-Bid Contracts Are Good For America". :laugh:
     
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    I don't suppose it matters that he's right...

    since he's a conservative, I mean. ;)
     
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    He ain't right.
     
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    Not to a liberal. Of course.
     
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    That is a perfect example of a conservative with his head stuck in the sand. Obama is going to win in the fall unless he makes a really bad mistake. Denying the obvious is going to help nobody. Obama will win and he is going to make a bigger mess of things than Bush has.
     
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    Sorry Brother but that prediction is based on a lack of consideration of to many other things. In fact I remember the same prediction for Hillary on this board. A lot of things can happen between now and November. No one can say with any certainty who will win.
     
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    Not to anyone who is in touch with political reality in 2008. This election is Senator Obama's to lose. Senator McCain is only an onlooker.
     
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    So you actually believe Obama is a "shoo-in"?

    I'm mildly surprised, considering your record of changing your support from one candidate to another.
     
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    Eventually winning is hardly the same as a "shoo-in".

    Being a "shoo-in" means it really doesn't matter what he does, he wins.

    Do you really believe that?
     
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    ==No, as I said "unless he makes a really bad mistake" he will win. Even if McCain were to pull off a shocker and win there will really be little to be happy about. Both McCain and Obama are backers of big government and both of them will continue to grow the federal government as president.
     
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    The author said that Senator Obama will have a hard time winning. Do you believe this? I don't unless he makes a huge blunder. That's why this election is Senator Obama's to lose. Senator McCain is merely an onlooker.
     
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    If you are interested you can ask me on the evening of November 4 whom I voted for. Until then I am not going to say whom I support or whom I will vote for - if anyone; other than it won't be Senator McCain.
     
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    Yes....we are all very concerned about the voting choices of those who have flip flopped on their choice of candidates like BHO on public policy. But isn't it fitting that one flip flopper chooses another.:laugh:
     
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    And don't forget Senator McCain's flip-flops. Some examples:

    1. Was against President Bush's tax cuts. Now supports them.

    2. Was against offshore drilling. Now supports it.

    3. Was anti-ethanol. Now is pro-ethanol.

    4. Opposed torture. Now supports it.

    5. Sought Pastor Hagee's support. Now rejects Pastor Hagee's support.

    6. Called Jerry Falwell an "agent of intolerance". Then cozied up to him.

    7. Did not want to see Roe v. Wade overturned. Now wants to see Roe v. Wade overturned.

    The McCain campaign, and his supporters, have no room to criticize anyone else for flip flopping.
     
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    I couldn't be any farther from that camp.
     
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    Absolutely.

    It will not be the cakewalk Obama acolytes believe, and hope, it will.
     
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    I know it won't be a landslide for either candidate. This is one election that will come down to the last vote and I believe we'll have record turn outs.
     
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    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121452433272409083.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

    No, McCain Isn't 'Doomed'

    By JOHN FUND
    June 27, 2008; Page A13

    EXCERPT

    Some Democrats claim new polls by Newsweek and the Los Angeles Times showing Sen. McCain trailing by 15 points in each seal the deal on an Obama presidency. But both polls appear to be outliers. Other polls show the race to be close.

    Both surveys polled registered, not likely, voters. Normally, only two-thirds of those end up casting ballots, and nonvoters lean Democratic. Second, Democrats had a 14-point advantage in Newsweek's sample, and a 17-point advantage in the Times poll, with Republicans making up only 22% of respondents. That's an unusually low number. Most other polls have the party ID gap with a significantly smaller Democratic edge.

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    Here Mr. McCain has an opening. On many core issues, the country still leans right of center. In last week's Washington Post poll, 50% of voters favored a smaller government with fewer services while 45% wanted a bigger government with more services – the same percentage breakdown as in June 2004.

    In the Democratic primaries, Mr. Obama's ideas were rarely challenged. In the fall, they will be. "This election is remarkably fluid with two nonincumbents running," says pollster Scott Rasmussen. "Some 30% of voters say they could easily change their minds, and a third of independent voters aren't paying much attention yet."
     

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