Obama reveals what "Change" Means

"our individual salvation depends on our collective salvation"- when speaking about his faith and belief.
That is one scary video, stuff that has come from Obama and his wife.
It looks like the loss of individualism, and the beginning of socialism. And we hear it from his own mouth.

 

It sounds like you reject the Biblical statement that we ARE our brother's keeper. That's what this video says. It likens this concept to Nazi ideas. If you believe that I wonder <Personal Attack deleted - LE>

 

I refuse to believe for one second that Obama or McCain has gotten specific about anything :laugh:

 

Well said.

Reformer

 

Especially religion.... I agree, Obama wouldn't make a good pastor or even Sunday school teacher.

 

It's just more proof that Obama is not a Christian and is cynically trying to use his "faith" to capture the votes of Christians.

Sadly, as demonstrated right here on BB, it's working.

 

This is an election in a democracy. Trash like your statement has no place i9n a free country. My Christianity does not depend on who I vote for in this election. Would you rather have a Fascist country in which we had only "THE PARTY" candidate on the ballot. It sounds like you would.

 

You mean like Bush did? He gained a lot of votes because of his religious convictions then what?

Tell, can guarantee everyone in your Church is theologically sound? Including the ones who barely attend since they are campaigning for election?

 

If they run for president of the US cynically using their faith to garner votes from Christians, as Obama has, they will reveal themselves just as he has.

Many Christians , like you, have let their politics blind them to the evil before their eyes.

 

Where in the Bible does it say to believe and have correct theology?

If you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ you're a Christian. It has nothing to do with politics.

 

Good posting! :wavey:

 

My bible tells me the demons believe, and they tremble. Are they saved ?

I think you miss heaven by six inches, or so, with that belief. The distance between the head, and the heart.

 

That last bit by Reagon is awesome.

 

It is not enough to tremble at the preaching of the Gospel, one must repent also.

 

Interesting. What criteria do you use to determine which statements belong in a free country and which ones don't?

Agreed, but what does your vote say, if anything, about your Christianity?

How do you get from the Obama statement to Fascism? I'd like to understand the logical leap required to do that.

 

There is no logical leap. :laugh: