Obama Threatened to Shoot Down Israeli Jets Attacking Iran

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  1. Jedi Knight

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    I'll bet the Israelis were shaking in their boots, doncha know.
     
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    If this turns out to be true, it's his biggest problem, yet. But can you imagine a president giving this order ?

    It's unbelievable.
     
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    Reading the article(s) reveals this:

    According to the Israeli news organization Ma'an, quoting Al-Jarida, a Kuwaiti based newspaper, quoting "well placed sources", said the Netanyahu government decided to strike Iran some time in 2014 after Israel had discovered the United States and Iran had been involved in secret talks over Iran’s nuclear program and were about to sign an agreement.

    The report claims an unnamed Israeli minister revealed the attack plan to Secretary of State John Kerry, and that Obama then threatened to shoot down the Israeli jets before they could reach their targets in Iran.


    So: According to a Kuwait newspaper an unnamed Israeli minister told John Kerry that Israel was about to bomb Iran. The Obama administration took the word of this unnamed Israeli seriously and warned off Netanyahu.

    Sounds fishy to me. I believe this is called rumors and not news. But makes for a great story!
     
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    I hope the "unnamed source" steps forward soon, because this is a very serious allegation. I'm suspicious of the timing, this coming out days before Bibi arrives to address the US Senate?
     
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    I can't believe that Netanyahu would back down. The whole thing sounds unreal.
     
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    Yeah, it's had to believe Bibi would just say: "oh, I'd better not attack, then" or that nobody in the USAS or WH would resign over this. I could see Obama disapproving over an Israeli airstrike but not this. It just sounds off:



    An Israeli minister on good relations with the Obama administration reportedly tipped Secretary of State John Kerry to the plan and that Obama vowed to shoot down the planes when they crossed over U.S.-controlled airspace in Iraq.


    The source said, the minister said, Kerry said, Obama said . . . this is at least four times removed from the original sources. Sounds more like a movie script, surreal indeed.
     
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    The Israelis will never make a peep over this. They never want the public being educated about their own malicious attack on the U.S.S. Liberty, "a classic all-American cover-up".
     
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    I have doubts that it is true, though it would seem plausible because of Obama's animosity toward Israel.

    I also do not think that the threat of denied airspace would stop Israel from dealing with an Iranian threat to their homeland.
     
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    Several sources are saying the same thing from what I looked up....Google and see.
     
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    Truth can be stranger than fiction.
     
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    Just Obama. It's always been evident he hates Israel. Probably because of his affinity for islam.
     
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    I have. Only right wing slanted news organizations are reporting it and the other "sources" are simply parroting the Kuwaiti paper.
     
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    Thank you for your cooperation.....you can retract your claws now.
     
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    Well he was accusing christians of the past Crusades so ISIS took christian hostages soon after his open mouth wisdom....coincidences?
     
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    Anybody can Google this as you say and see that only right wing news outlets are reporting it. No claws needed.
     
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    No but you cannot stick to the story without a jib jab.....just when I had hope for you.
     
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    I said this story sounded fishy. You suggested I Google it. I did, and found only certain news outlets are reporting it. That makes it sound fishier.
     
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    Brzezinski, Carter's advisor, seems to be the one who spoke publically calling for war with Israel if they tried to attack Iran. Curiously, he called for Obama to protect Iraqi airspace. Obama has told so many lies that no one would buy a used car from him.
     
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    Is this what you're referring to Brzezinski publically calling for war with Israel? If so, then you've absolutely no business ever calling ANYONE a liar:

    "Leading US strategist Zbigniew Brzezinski rejects Israeli pressure to form American national security policy by beating the drum for war on Iran. Washington would not blindly follow Tel-Aviv if Israel chooses to unilaterally strike Iran, he said.

    Brzezinski said he would not advise President Barack Obama to back military action against Iran if Israel initiates a war. The observation was made at a conference hosted by the National Iranian American Council and the Arms Control Association.

    In the event that Israel attacks Iran before Iran crosses the US red line, Zbigniew Brzezinski does not think there is any “implicit obligation” for the US “to follow, like a stupid mule, whatever the Israelis do.”

    If they decide to start a war, simply on the assumption that we will be automatically drawn into it, I think it is the obligation of friendship to say “you’re not going to be making national decisions for us”, declared Brzezinski.

    “I think the US has the right to have its own national security policy. I think most Americans would agree with that. And therefore clarity on this issue is important and especially if we commit ourselves, explicitly and bindingly, to Israel’s security,” the strategist said.

    Brzezinski explained that he advocates a formula “designed to freeze any threat into a non-threat.”

    Unless one can convincingly argue that a country of eighty five million people (Iran has population of 78 million – RT) is no higher priority than an act of collective suicide. And I don’t think that is sustained by any evidence whatsoever,” Brzezinski rationalized.*

    In recent months the Obama administration has been rebutting all of Israel’s attempts to draw the US into a military operation against Iran. Washington has warned not once that in case Tel Aviv opts to do the assault on Iran’s nuclear facilities on its own, it would have to face the consequences along.

    President Barack Obama stated he lays his hopes with the crippling international sanctions imposed on the Iranian Islamic Republic.

    Despite Washington’s decisiveness on the Iranian question, the Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu continues to call for military action against Tehran.

    ‘Americans elected Obama exactly because he’s peaceable’

    *Jamal Abdi, who is Policy Director of the National Iranian American Council, told RT that Barack Obama is committed to diplomacy in the Iranian issue. Political threats by rightwing pro-Israel hawks that were aimed against Obama's support for Iran diplomacy this past election "turned out to be a paper tiger".

    Despite a strong pro-Israel lobby in Washington, with Barack Obama back in the White House, Israel cannot count on unconditional military support from America against Iran, Abdi said.

    He pointed out that at the presidential election “the American people really voted for the candidate who promised to actually use negotiations, for the candidate who spoke against war.”


    Abdi recalled that Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu, a fierce advocate of military action against Iran, actually intervened in the American presidential election.

    He went on national TV channels ahead of the [American presidential] elections and basically came out against Obama. And Bibi lost that fight,” Abdi said.

    Having backed the wrong horse, “Netanyahu needs to recalculate”, Abdi explained. But President Obama faces the same problem, because he needs to find a policy that would benefit everybody in preventing a war, “instead of trying to pander to this hawkish, very right-wing policy driven by some pro-Israel lobby groups.”
    Still, Jamal Abdi believes an attack on Iran is a real option.

    “As long as the ‘pressure only’ policy continue to dominate and undermine diplomacy, as long as sanctions continue to be a spoiler in a diplomatic process and limit the flexibility to find a deal that resolves these issues – we eventually going to end up in a war,” Abdi summed up."

    US won’t follow Israel 'like a stupid mule' - Brzezinski
     
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