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Obamacare Impact on Jobs (And Way Less Job Growth than Anyone Thinks)

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Revmitchell, Nov 29, 2013.

  1. Revmitchell

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    Every month (on average), for about a year, there has been a startling discrepancy between employment as measured by the household survey and jobs as reported by the establishment survey.

    I believe the discrepancy is yet another Obamacare artifact.

    Jobs vs. Employment Discussion

    Before diving into the details, it is important to understand limits on data, and how the BLS measures jobs in the establishment survey vs. employment in the household survey.

    Establishment Survey: If you work one hour that counts as a job. There is no difference between one hour and 50 hours.
    Establishment Survey: If you work multiple jobs you are counted twice. The BLS does not weed out duplicate social security numbers.

    Household Survey: If you work one hour or 80 you are employed.
    Household Survey: If you work a total of 35 hours you are considered a full time employee. If you work 25 hours at one job and 10 hours at another, you are a fulltime employee.

    Recall that the definition of fulltime under Obamacare is 30 hours, but fulltime to the BLS is 35 hours.

    Next, consider what happens under Obamacare if someone working 34 hours is cut back to 25 hours, then picks up another parttime job.

    Obamacare Effect

    Prior to Obamacare
    34 hours worked = 1 parttime job household survey
    34 hours worked = 1 job establishment survey

    Enter obamacare
    Person cut back to 25 hours and takes a second job for 10 hours
    Here is the new math

    25 + 10 = 1 fulltime job on the household survey.
    25 + 10 = 2 jobs on the establishment survey.

    In my example, the household survey totals up all the hours and says, voilla! (35 hours = full time). So a few extra hours that people pick up working 2 part time jobs now throws someone into full time status – thus no surge in part-time employment, but there is a surge in jobs.

    I am quite sure this is what is happening, but I cannot prove it.

    Household Survey Normalized

    The BLS has a chart (shown below) that normalizes the household survey to the establishment survey, but that just transfers establishment survey double-counting to the household survey!



    I contacted the BLS and asked if they could please weed out duplicate social security numbers. They can't because they do not capture social security numbers.

    http://finance.townhall.com/columni...urce=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl
     
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