Obamacare: Socialism or Fascism?

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  1. Ruiz

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    This is not new but since it is being re-reported, I thought I would see what others thought.
     
  2. plain_n_simple

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    I only hope that sick people can get healing no matter how it happens. The elders in the church or medical care. Doesn't matter what you call it, I call it compassion.
     
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    Obamacare has turned out to be the flop all the right-wing pundits said it was going to be.

    If you want to help the sick, bring the prices down. Making "the rich" pay for everything is not compassion.
     
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    That's why I say the elders in the church should heal. Doesn't cost a dime.
     
  5. Ruiz

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    I don't call it compassion.

    Compassion is when a person cares for another person and gives directly to them.

    Serfdom is when someone forces someone to give to a person.

    I am all for compassion and believe in charities. Government can neither give true compassion nor truly help people. that comes with individuals.
     
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    Then I suppose you could call Obamacare socialism. If it helps more sick than what we have now with the insurance companies, I'm all for it.
     
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    If ?

    What "if" it doesn't ? What "if" it becomes worse, like even the C.B.O. says it will ?
     
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    With more and more losing insurance I'd like to see if it would work.
     
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    Then on the same token, why not try to eliminate ambulance chasing millionare lawyers, make insurance available to be purchased out of state, eliminate expensive non-essential emergency room services, try to get a handle on the expense we currently saddle ourselves with supplying free care to illegals, de-regulate where people can purchase medicines, eliminate the medical lobby in D.C.....etc...since that has a better chance of working than Obamacare does ?

    Is the only answer to give it over to the government ?
     
  10. Ruiz

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    If you read the article, it calls it fascism because Obama Care is the biggest expander of the big health Insurance industry of any other legislation since the 1970's. You may not like the businesses, but then you must hate ObamaCare.

    Rather, I think there are better ways of decreasing costs and providing more people will affordable health care. ObamaCare will not do either.

    Would you be for food insurance? Where people can get free food?
     
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    I just hope that something will work. People need healed. Congress sure wasn't doing anything before O'Bama to drive down costs.
     
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    Or maybe we can find a way to live without being dependent on government.
     
  13. Ruiz

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    Your right, but Obama only did things to increase medical costs (and has since took actions to increase education costs). Obama is not reducing costs, but inflating big business.
     
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    Maybe fascism. We are now all a new class of industrial serf and our masters want us to be healthy. Masters have always taxed their serfs one way or another.
     

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