Obama's America Serves

Lady Eagle you beat me to it in your last remark. I would just say that during the primary we had young children and teen age groups singing the praises of the "Dear Leader". Fox News carried the video of a grade school teacher berating a student who said she supported McCain because her father was in Iraq. My grand daughter told me one of her teachers [art history] spent the first 15 minutes of class time after the election berating Bush and McCain while all in the class [excluding her] giggled. All I can say is God have mercy on us!raying: raying:

 

Sounds like some decent plans to allow Americans to serve together.

 

So a national volunteer service programme is automatically a harbinger of Nazism? That quite a stretch.

 

Nope.

But it is worthy of suspicion, and watchfulness.

 

Disagreeing is not a deprivation of first amendment rights. Part of what had made America great has been discussion, disagreement, and dialog. I would assume that even though I live abroad, I still have those rights as well? I gave an honest opinion, you are the one who brought up the Nazis.

Conservatism is not determined by seeing every turn in the road as a slippery slope.

I see our slippery slope as going way back to at least 1989.

I truly think a volunteer service programme of some sort could be good for America.

 

I like the comment that teenagers can do community service to help with their college bills - better than a free hand out.

I am not suspicious because he has not had a chance to act yet. I still believe that the American system is based on the concept of innocent until proven guilt, not guilt by suspicion.

 

This only applies since Obama won the election. If McCain had won, it would be the patriotic thing to do. :laugh:

 

If McCain even mentioned this, he would get blasted by the conservatives. I disagree with your sentiment.

 

Please let me say that

1) Forced volunteerism needs another name.
2) We as a nation have become very selfish and lacking in volunteering.

So there does seem to be an impasse that needs a solution.

ALSO asking questions, trying to see the good in things that someone else has dismissed, disagreeing with the party line (or the OP) doesn't put someone automatically at odds with you. Looking at all sides is good for argument. Just an observation.

 

A few thoughts here:

At $40 per hour for "community service" it might as well be a handout. I doubt that most of the "community service" work done will be of any real value.

And won't $40 per an hour for registering new democrat voters make the ACORN workers who got $8 an hour really mad?


"...college students who conduct 100 hours of community service receive a universal and fully refundable tax credit ensuring that the first $4,000 of their college education is completely free."

Working for 100 hours to get something for free - oxymoron.

 

It's already got a name - salvery.

I don't see that. And volunteer for what? If families were doing what God commands them, the need for volunteers would nearly vanish.

 

Slavery? mmmm could be community service instead.

Part of the reason that schools have started requiring community service is because students don't have a sense of volunteering. They don't see it modeled.

And in at least some of our churches, we've had to go to new models to fill our volunteer needs - like teachers who will only work every other week or two out of four weeks or once a month instead of weekly.

 

You disagree? How surprising is that! :laugh:

 

How do you read "volunteer" in a program that compels junior high and highschool students to perform "public service"?

If Obama was concerned about public service, he would be promoting the Boy Scouts of America. No, he needs a "new" corps. There's more than this in Obama's campaign that parallels rise of the Nazi party.

 

You are right on target. I see nothing wrong with any of the programs. Maybe it will finally end the "ME" emphasis of our culture and start emphasising the good for all of us.

High schools students in Maryland have to perform a certain number of hours, forget how many, of public service to graduate. It is a way of beginning to teach the taking of responsibility. {Brown shirts are not required}

We need more people helping serve our communities and our nation and fewer couch spuds. Those who thnk this strikes of Naziam are either very ignorant of history or just want to cause trouble through their hatred of Obama.

People who are involved with others are happier than those who are sitting around and thinking only of self.