Obama's Birth Certificate

Discussion in 'Politics' started by OldRegular, Aug 15, 2009.

  1. OldRegular

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    Almost anyone can be president as long as they meet three, and only three, basic requirements. They must be a natural born citizen of the United States and at least 35 years old. They must also have been a resident of this country for at least the last fourteen years. Of all the things our Founders could have required, they picked only these three.

    There are no requirements concerning political philosophy and knowledge of how our government works. Y ou don’t even have to have any experience. Instead, they picked citizenship. Why? “The President of the United States was to be a citizen of this country, holding up this country’s values and ideals. He had to be loyal to this country alone.” Whether Barack Obama was born in the United States is important, but even more important is for him to demonstrate his constitutional loyalty to a nation built on Christian principles. Thomas Jefferson said it well enough:
    No nation has ever existed or been governed without religion. Nor can be. The Christian religion is the best religion that has been given to man and I, as Chief Magistrate of this nation, am bound to give it the sanction of my example.

    President Obama has been apologizing for America in every foreign country he visits, and he does it publicly. But it’s in Muslim’s nations that he has denigrated and dismissed America’s Christian heritage most forcefully. For several years, first as a Senator and now as President, Mr. Obama has repeatedly claimed that America is not a Christian nation. On a recent presidential trip to the Muslim nation of Turkey he announced to the world that Americans “do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.” Did he ask American Christians? During a trip to the Muslim nation of Egypt, he declared that America is “one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.” The Muslim population in the United States is less than one percent while the Christian population is nearly 60 percent. What’s going on here?

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  2. Robert Snow

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    Not another stupid "birther" thread! Some people don't know when they have lost an election! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
     
  3. Salty

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    I am so glad that you accepted the Bush 2000 election without reservation.

    But Robert, cany you give me a good reason (not excuse) why is BO refusing to release the "long form" of his Birth certificate?
     
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    Because not a single court or authority in the land has asked him to and his home state (remember state's rights?) has declared his birth authentic?
     
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    Yea, like that would satisfy these birthers.
     
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    AMEN Brother! :applause::thumbs:
     
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    Does this make it right?
     
  8. Aaron

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    No one has the right to declare something that is not true. They owe it to the nation to prove it to be true.
     
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    According to the constitution, YES! This is why the SCOTUS won't hear the case.
     
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    So, do conservatives truly believe in state's rights or not?

    Hawaii is a sovereign state. They have certified that Barack Obama was born there - case closed.
     
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    No, we are innocent until proved guilty. The birthers have the burden of prof and not the President.
     
  12. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Oh really - a sovereign state must prove its statements to equal partners in a federal republic?

    Do you have any constitutional basis for that?
     
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    Actually if you knew how to read you would have noted that the primary point of the OP was not the legitimacy of Obama's citizenship but trying to determine the rationale for his erratic behavior!:laugh::laugh::laugh:
     
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    I, like Robert, was also misled by the title of the thread. I assumed because of that the thread was about the birth certificate.

    Apologies on my part.
     
  15. Salty

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    Interesting theory - but the Constitution does require a person to be a natural born citizen - therefore the Federal Govt has a right and a duty - to the rest of the States and or Commonwealths to ensure that a federally elected man is constitutionally qualified.

    and yes, I am a strong 10th amendment advocate.
     
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    Let's see if those wanting this proven are birthers, does that make those that do not want it proven abortionists? :thumbs:
     
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    How absurd the defense of Obama has become.
     
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    He is, as verified by the state of his birth, the US Supreme Court, and the US Congress.

    Seems like that should be enough, oh, but wait - this thread is not about the birth certificate despite the title.
     
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    It is absurd indeed to recognise a state's right to verify the citizenship of its people.

    My point is made, there is no answer except to call my argument absurd.
     
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    What is absurd is to suggest they need not offer any evidence simply because they are a state. Where does that logic come from? And it was not the state but one single office of whom could be being dishonest in order to cover up for Obama. Honest people have no problem giving all the info. Obama spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on lawyers not to have to do that. Why?
     

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