Obamas Dirty Dozen

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  1. Salty

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    The Senators up for re-election in competitive states in 2014 are starting to panic, though they still aren't offering solutions for anything other than their own growing political jeopardy.


    Alaska---------------- Mark Begich
    Arkansas------------- Mark Pryor
    Colorado--------------Mark Udall
    Colorado------------- Michael Bennet
    Hawaii’s-------------- Brian Schatz
    Minesota--------------Al Franken
    New Mexico’s-------- Tom Udall
    N. Carolina’s--------- Kay Hagen
    Louisiana's----------- Mary Landrieu
    New Hampshire's---- Jeanne Shaheen
    Oregon--------------- Jeff Merkley
    Virginia's------------- Mark Warner


    These Senators may lose their seat, giving up the Senate giving the House and the Senate to the Republicans

    The R's need to win 6 of those seats (providing they retain all of their seats -) and they will control the Senate

    15 Senate seats held by R's are up for election
     
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    If they all lose to Republicans, and nine other Democrats grow consciences, we could rid ourselves of the Great Pretender via impeachment proceedings.

    Aw, who am I kiddin'? Any and all future impeachment proceedings will be voted strictly along party lines. The only way any president, present of future, will be convicted on articles of impeachment is if he kills his wife in the White House, or sells nuke secrets to Iran.
     
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    I don't know who is handicapping these races because saying this one will be competitive is about as wrong as you can get. As of right now, Franken is safe as all the announced R candidates are lightweights with zero name recognition and Franken has double-digit leads in the polls over all of them.
     
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    Key phrase is "As of right now"
    the polls are showing Franken with 50% and opponents at about 40%. That 10% in the middle could make a differenc - "As of right now" the election could go into overtime again as to wait on ALL absentee votes.
    Hopfully Minn will be able to come up with a solid conservative candidate - but time is running out. And as ITL stated - he does have to make a name for himself.
    Too bad voters dont bother to learn about all candidates and the issues.:tear:
     
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    Which is totally meaningless one year before the election.
     
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    You guys can try to school me in Minnesota politics all you like, but I have been following it since I was 10 years old and distributed flyers door-to-door in Minnesota's 5th district. You can't really tell me anything.

    The Republican party in Minnesota is in disarray. They are in debt. They went all in on two constitutional amendments in 2012, gay marriage and photo voter ID, and didn't pay attention to core issues like taxes, education, and the economy. Result was losing the House, Senate, and governor to the democrats. They also lost a US House seat to a Dem. Also, the Tea Party has made inroads and is being disruptive at the caucuses--Ron Paul was huge in Minnesota.

    Furthermore, Michele Bachmann is not running for the US House again and John Kline's usually safe seat is in jeopardy. I would not look to Minnesota--land of Humphrey, Mondale, and Wellstone--to have any good news for Republicans in 2014. Sorry.
     
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    That is your big mistake - A thinking person always listens to the oppsition TO LEARN!

    Never think you know everthing.

    You did bring up some valid points - all very true.
    You did mention about the "R's" loosing a Senate seat. Did you forget that there was a 6 month recount - and possible fraud?

    And as TND stated - we still have a year to go - in politics that is a lifetime.

    I do have a question - how is Obamacare going in Mn? That could be a big deciding factor in several States/Commonwealths
     
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    I said you can't really tell me anything about Minnesota politics, NOT tell me anything about anything.

    Yes, and that race was against Norm Coleman, former mayor of St. Paul and the incumbent US senator. So you think a no-name lightweight from a broken GOP party is going to displace Al Franken in 2014? Think of the network of Hollywood celebrities his campaign can tap for contributions. Then consider the MN GOP is in debt and several high-profile contributors have said they are not going to give money.

    Yes, usually it can be a factor but I'm telling you as an observer of Minnesota it could be 2, 3, 4 years from now, makes no difference.

    They have a well run website that people are using. There are TV commercials touting the website on TV almost every day. There are disgruntled people with canceled policies (I'm one of them) but generally speaking I'd say the people that don't like Obamacare in Minnesota are a minority. You've got to remember that Minnesota is a Democrat bastion. They're ahead of the curve when it comes to publicly funded health care so Obamacare is considered an extension of the state's progressive tradition in this area.
     
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    Is possible - has happend - not easy but possible

    Didnt bother to respons to your other statements - as you just dont get it.
     
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    I don't get it? No, you don't understand Minnesota politics. How would you like it if I started telling you that you were wrong about your analysis of upper state New York politics?
     
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    I do not know how safe the Democrat races are, but the Kentucky Senate race is far from decided. McConnell has primary opposition and general election opposition. As another poster pointed out, a year before an election is impossible to predict, but at this point in time, Kentuckians are totally disgusted with McConnell.
     
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    I would glady recive any valid info - in fact sometimes people from the outside will see things that those on the inside dont see.
    and yes, I am very serious - as that is how I accept advice.
     

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