Ohio Supreme Courts Rejects GOP Early Voting Challenge

I am not sure I follow you. It seems that you are saying that if enough people don't actually follow the rules to vote, that their votes should count anyway.

If the instructions are to punch the ballot all the way through, then that standard should be upheld. If there is a hanging chad, it doesn't count. Period. That is easy. When people started changing the rules, it opened up a whole new problem. In the end, if the chad was still attached, the vote should not have counted.

 

Those recounts were electronic recounts. They were to hand count the votes the machine spit out because it couldn't read them.

 

I'm saying if one or two misread the instructions then it is their fault.

When a large group of people misread the instructions it brings the instructions/process to question. Also, the vast majority of the improper ballots were in areas with high numbers of sr. citizens. This makes the argument about the chad being attached kind of a weak technicality since voter intent was clear.

 

I will let this post stand on its own merits. It clearly speaks for itself.

 

Not necessarily. Furthermore, in terms of law, when things are spelled out, that needs to be the end of it. You can go back and rewrite the law next time, but just as you can't charge someone under a law that didn't exist when they acted, so you can't go back and not charge someone under a law that did exist.

So now you are saying that Sr. Citizens are incapable of understanding and following instructions? I give sr. citizens a lot more credit than that. (Of course, I understand your point, and I know you are not thinking that of sr. citizens. But in the best spirit of the campaign season, I figured I would misuse your words and blame you for something you didn't say.)

However, and more to the point, I am not aware that the law hangs on "voter intent." If it does, it shouldn't. Voter intent is determined by the law as to whether or not the chad was completely separated from the ballot. There could have been ballot checkers at the box before they were inserted to make sure that the ballot was properly executed. But in the end, if the law says that the chad has to be completely separated, then hanging chads, dimpled chads, and the like don't count. Period. At some point, we have to be a nation of laws.

I agree. If this were done more often, conversation would be better because we wouldn't have people trying to make up stuff that really wasn't said.

 

Actually they were to fabricate votes based on varying standards. Dimpled chads ......give me a break

 

Agreed. Just goes to show the Dems will do anything to try to force the election for themselves. Last time, wasn't it pulling votes from homeless people in exchange for packs of cigaretttes (and wasn't that in Illinois?).

 

Someone brought up the 2004 Florida presidential votes, but our Democrat friends have to this day refused to acknowledge that UNOFFICIAL recounts were performed by the liberal new media, who found that Bush won fair and square, even with the most "democrat-friendly" ways of counting the votes!

Of course, I had to hear this from "conservative talk radio", since the liberal news media would not publish the truth. As I recall, the Washington Post did publish the results, which is where the radio people got it. (Paper may be wrong, and I don't want to try to research it now. I may have been some other paper.)

Here in Washington state, the Dems filed a lawsuit last week to force the reprinting of ballots, because the Republican candidate (Dino Rossi) had listed his party affiliation as "GOP Party". The lawsuit was thrown out, on the grounds that "Republican" and "GOP" have been virtuaslly synonymous since the mid-1800s. The lawsuit was filed long after the ballots were sent to our military members, which typically lean toward voting for Republicans. Those ballots could not have been replaced in time to count, if the lawsuit had succeeded. Many had even already been received by the county auditors! Is thids an example of how the Dems are going to try to force us into having Obama as President?

May God guide each and every one of us in our votes this year! My personal opinion is that we should kick the bums out. Every one of them! But then we would REALLY have someone who had zero experience. Oh, wait! We already have a favorite who HAS NO EXPERIENCE in leadership -- just in how to say "change"!

Bill :godisgood:

 

There are illegitimate votes in every state. Why should Ohio be different?


They will be checked before they are counted and that is as fair as we can get.

 

Alternatively we could vote by the law, and strengthen the laws to prevent future fraud.

 

According to the Ohio Supreme court, they are voting according to the law.

I also don't know of any law that can 100% prevent voter fraud. I recall where one party here had people get id's and absentee ballots for dead people. Where there is a criminal will there is a way. These so happen to be legal so why focus on them instead of the ones that are illegal.

 

But according to the law itself they are not. This appears, by my understanding, to be a court that has overstepped it bounds. It is unfortunate. And it is unfortunate that Obama is not calling for change.

First, absentee voting should be outlawed. Second, state issued picture idea should be required. Third, national voting database should be employed so that when a person checks in and is given a ballot, it can be verified that they have not voted in some other place. There are some safe, relatively simply concepts that can be enacted.