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Old Baptist Quote #1 - J. B. Gambrell

Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by rlvaughn, Oct 28, 2001.

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  1. rlvaughn

    rlvaughn Well-Known Member
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    This is an attempt to start a weekly (or weakly) quote from some old Baptist. The only criteria is that it interests me. ;) I will not make any comments other than a little information about the one quoted, and will leave the rest of the commentary up to you. Here goes -

    The Average Baptist
    The average Baptist is a plain, straight thinking person. He may be a great scholar, or a hod carrier, but, in religion, he takes on the complexion and manners of the New Testament. He believes in simplicity. He likes plain preaching and simple worship. If the choir, by any machination of the devil, falls under the lead of any professional musician and is turned to singing tunes with the delirium tremens, the average Baptist is grieved, and solaces his soul by singing 'How Firm a Foundation' or 'Amazing Grace'...The average Baptist takes no stock of Easter, and the like, not that he does not believe in the resurrection; not that people may not observe days; but, like Paul, he is skittish of these extras and prefers the plain, old, level Jordan road, with a steady incline up, all the way till it reaches the city of God." J. B. Gambrell, from The Baptist Standard, May 1907

    James Bruton Gambrell (1841-1921) was born in South Carolina, raised in Mississippi, lived in Georgia, and later came to Texas. He was a Southern Baptist pastor, educator, and denominational leader. Editor of the "Baptist Record" 14 years; President of Mercer University; editor of "The Baptist Standard"; and President of the Southern Baptist Convention 1917-1921.

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  2. Clint Kritzer

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    Good evening, Mr. vaughn,
    What a marvelous inspiration for a posting. I make this reply for two reasons: 1) I have fallen in love with this quote, and 2) to bring you back to the top for further input.
    This quote was made by William E. Hatcher (1834 - 1912), a member of my local congregation and founder of my alma mater high school, Fork Union Military Academy:
    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> We, as Baptist, tend to rattle our doctrine like an old skeleton until it annoys the people and frightens the children. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    I will add further to your posting that a good frien d of mine said, "The choir is the War Department of the church." Take that as you like. [​IMG]

    God bless you, sir

    Clint

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  3. rlvaughn

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    Like you, Clint, I have fallen in love with this quote. Though I am not a Southern Baptist, and though history reveals that J. B. Gambrell was organizationally opposed to my forefathers in the faith here in Texas, I have a great deal of respect for him in many positions that he took. I especially love the way he ended speaking of Baptists preferring "the plain, old, level Jordan road, with a steady incline up, all the way till it reaches the city of God." That moves me!
     
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    quote:
    We, as Baptist, tend to rattle our doctrine like an old skeleton until it annoys the people and frightens the children.

    I will add further to your posting that a good friend of mine said, "The choir is the War Department of the church."

    This is what Brother Clint posted and it had me ROFLOL. This being so close to halloween and all... Shame on you... hehe!

    I can't comment on the church choir being the war dept. of the church because the Primitive Baptist do not have a choir. As far as I know in my many years in the church and reading the history of the PBC in the past have never had one.

    As soon as I can organize my thoughts I will try to tackle the comment on doctrine. I can truely say the doctrine of the Primitive Baptist has only brought me joy and peace as I understand it and as the Lord has given me the understanding. I can also say I've been to the Holy Woodshed many times in my life when I didn't listen to the Lord as I should... Just my thoughts for now... Brother Glen [​IMG]
     
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  5. Clint Kritzer

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    Mr. Tyndale - I will not post any more on the choir either as I have been recommending the BB to my friends at church and the whistle blowing historian is no match for the War Department in any case. (Also wanted to get Mr. Vaughn's quote back on top of the forum home page.) Goodnight, sir. - Clint
     
    #5 Clint Kritzer, Oct 28, 2001
  6. J.R. Graves

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    Great idea Brother RVaughn! I look forward to reading more old Baptists quotes.

    Another old Baptist,

    Ben
     
    #6 J.R. Graves, Oct 28, 2001
  7. tyndale1946

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    I took this quote from Hassels Church History
    from an Old Line Primitive Baptist Church

    1. As to what constitutes a Church - According to the Kehukee fathers, "a church of Christ is a congregation of men and women, publicly professing faith in Christ Jesus, and being regularly baptized by immersion, who have covenanted together, given themselves up to one another in the Lord, to be governed by His word, and to be guided by a regular and proper discipline, agreeable to the Holy Scriptures."... Brother Glen [​IMG]
     
    #7 tyndale1946, Oct 29, 2001
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    AMEN!!!! RLVaughn, you have warmed my old baptist heart.
     
    #8 Bro. Curtis, Oct 29, 2001
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