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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Michael Wrenn, Mar 17, 2012.

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  1. Michael Wrenn

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    Forgive me if I am unjustly suspicious of motives, but I have reason to be so on this forum, considering some of what's been directed at me.

    Simply because it does not reflect who Jesus was and what He taught. If Jesus is the perfect image of God, how can the Sermon on the Mount, for instance, be reconciled with how God is presented in some places in the OT? It can't.
     
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    I would guess that you would not like this statement of Jesus then:

    Luke 19:27
    But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me. NIV
     
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    Ah, and typical of people like you -- you don't even tell the truth when quoting scripture. Jesus was telling a parable of a nobleman, and these were the nobleman's words in the parable.
     
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    I admit that I haven't read through all the posts so forgive me if I'm repeating something already mentioned:

    But I'd like to know what some of you "fundamentalist" types think of the NT passages which clearly 'correct' or 'give a more full perspective' of the OT ways of thinking?

    Examples:

    1. I used to call you servants but now I call you friends. (John 15:15)
    2. You've heard it said...but I say... (sermon on the mount)
    3. Love your enemy, do good to those who hate you.
    4. Let him without sin cast the first stone.

    That is a good start...
     
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    I bet the Pharisees called Jesus a liberal.
     
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    And worse.
     
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    Let's take a look at it and see.

    Jesus was nearing Jerusalem and some were expecting the kingdom to be restored then. He told the parable in response to that.

    Jesus was telling them what was going to happen. Jesus is the nobleman, the disciples are his servants, and the subjects that rejected him are the Jews - He came unto His own and they did not receive Him. Those that rejected Him were indeed destroyed - 70 AD ring a bell? It also points out to the final judgement where Jesus ultimately destroys all His enemies. Satan with his fallen angels and those whose names are not written in the Lambs book of life are thrown into the lake of fire.
     
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    Ah, but you are mixing things and times up. True, after the judgment, the enemies of God and Jesus will be justly dealt with. But you still cannot reconcile and harmonize the Sermon on the Mount with the blood lust that you perceive to be part of the character of God as shown in some places in the Old Testament.
     
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    No, I am not. But it is you that sees God as being filled with blood-lust in the OT - I don't see it that way. :type:
     
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    Okay, I'll accept that, and I am sorry if I accused you of something that you don't hold.

    But, you see, I don't believe the God of the Old Testament was filled with blood-lust. I do, however, believe some of his claimed representatives were -- just like some today are.
     
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    Did you read the article offered in the original post?????? The writer does not believe in a whole bible....the article is not long....take a look,,,,
     
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    :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
     
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