Some Musings prompted by Andy's statement over on the Books Forum... I've heard a lot about "Open Theism" and I will have to consider some of what it really is as I've found very little in the way of objective dissertations on the topic... So far, and *only* as far as I've read so far in this one book... ("God at War - The Bible and Spiritual Warfare" By Gregory A. Boyd) It doesn't appear that He is denying God knows everything... Only that he is challenging our requirement that God *applies* that knowledge the way we think He does (or should?)... But, I've thought about how boring it would be to create something and then know everything about it from start to finish... For the same reason I don't read the end of the book before it's time. Takes all the fun out of "discovery"... Of course I can only relate this in the human and time-limited terms I am familiar with... But, if God can intentionally forget our sins... Could He intentionally suspend certain aspects of His Knowledge about us so that we may 'surprise' Him with the solution we come up with? God knows everything... OK... How can He not know Our Sins? Well, they're Covered by the Blood... OK, but He still knows they are there, right? I mean He knows everything... So, while I have no conclusions... I am developing a working hypothesis... That God knows (or calculates) our end from our beginning... But, that He intentionally obscures the fine details so that he can enjoy the triumph and discovery with us... Not, making a lot of sense... But, only have a poor tired human brain to work with.... Note, please, that I am not a Hyper-Calvinist or an Absolutist when it comes to pre-destination... I put a lot of stock in Free-Will. Even if sometimes it requires God to apply the proverbial 2 by 4 to the side of this mules stubborn head. God will get His way, in the end. But, I think he likes to watch us figure it out and even has a good laugh with us when we realize if we'd listened a bit harder it would have been so much easier on us.. My view of Omnipotence doesn't require micro-managing the Cosmos... Sure God is capable of micro-managing the Cosmos... But, why have angels with Free-Will if not to delegate authtority to get the job done? Rambling Musings... My not understanding doesn't bother me, though... Because for some strange reason God's statement that His ways are Higher and his Thoughts are Higher are a Great Comfort... Mike Sr.