Y'all, I would like to discuss with you about the doctrine of salvation issue. For a long time, myself been hold osas doctrine as "eternal security salvation" doctrine. That time, myself never think of label or called myself, "osas", because I never hear it before. 'Eternal security salvation' is samiliar as Calvinism's one of the five points - "Perservance of the Saints". Both Baptists(non-Calvinists) and Calvinists believe a person never lose salvation. For a long time, I was an independent fundamental baptist. Now, I am still a truly baptist, but not IFB or SBC either. I would like to share with you the scriptures to show prove they are not unconditional salvation. All of three books that Apostle John, the Beloved written were given the message to the Christians only. Often, we notice word, "IF" in his books. Seems to me that there is no offically that a Christian finally saved at once after believed in Christ - eternal salvation. Notice word, "if", seems to me, that it warns to us, depend on any individual Christian who make their own choice or decision that is freewill. Calvinism teaches against freewill. But, the Bible teaches us, there is very obivously prove that we so have freewill! 1 John 1:6 says, "IF we say that we have fellowship with him,(BUT...) and walk in darknessm we lie and do NOT the truth." Too many Christians are hyprocrisy today, they have two faces. I admit, I am hyrocrite. God hates hyprocrite people, you know that. 1 John 1:7 says, "IF we walk in the light, as he is in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin." It proves us, that we DO have freewill to make our choice, depend on any individual Christian who decide to walk godly live, Christ truly forgive person's sin, IF a person honest walk godly life, not hyprocrisy. 1 John 1:8 "IF we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." Today, often Christains saying, I doing no sin everyday, I am living holy, same as Pharisees do. I read a booklet of late Dr. Curtis Hutson. When he was a pastor at Forest Hills Baptist Church in Decutar, GA. A member came into his office. A member told him, never have a sin in 10 years. Dr. Hutson laughed, he told to a member, you lied, he showed a verse to a member, guess what? A member was angry at him. Often osas pastors, teachers prove 1 John 1:9 teach on osas doctrine, and this verse is a popular for teaching on prayer. But... 1 John 1:9 says, "IF we confess our sins, he(Christ) is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." Osas pastors often use this verse to prove us, no matter how often we sinned daily in our life, God can forgive our sins everyday, we still always be saved. But...it says, "IF" proves, what if suppose a Christian NEVER ask or confess to Christ of sins for forgiveness for a LONG TIME or till death, will Christ ever forgive a Christian's sin, and still going to heaven? No, I don't think so. Christ would NOT forgive a Christian's sins, IF a Christian does NOT confess sins to Christ. 1 John 1:6-7 reminds me of 'darkness' Please go to 1 Thess 5:4-7. Often, I hear pretrib pastors teaching on 1 Thess 5:4-7, that a person in the light is a Christian, a person in the dark is not a Christian-lost person. Is that correct? Partially correct. But... 1 Thess 5:4 says, "But ye, brethren, are NOT in darkness, that that(I dislike English grammar rule, it does not make a sense to me) day should overtake you as a thief." Apostle Paul seems not saying we are always in the light prove it is eternality security salvation. Notice word, 'not', seems to me, that Paul urges us, we should NOT walk in the darkness. 1 Thess 5:5 says, "Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are NOT of the night, NOR of darkness." It seems prove osas doctrine. But, I do not see osas doctrine in 1 Thess 5:5. Seems to me, that Apostle Paul commands us, that we are NOT of the night, or NOT in the darkness. 1 Thess 5:6 says, "THEREFORE LET US NOT SLEEP, AS DTHERS; but let us WATCH and be SOBER." 1 Thess 5:6 clears prove us, it is not osas doctrine. Apostle Paul urges or command us that we OUGHT walk in the light, and watch. Same with 1 John 1:6-7 commands us, that we should walk in the light. Light is not literally visibly or object. It represents figurative meaning. Light means, to walk life holy and blameless, not do sinning life. Dark means love the wolrd, and do sinning all the time, NOT being to watch for Christ's coming. Please look in Rev. 3:3 says, "Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard HOLD FAST, and REPENT.(BUT...)IF therefore thou shalt not NOT wtach, I will come ON THEE as a THIEF, and thou not know what hour I will come upon thee." Rev. 3:3 is very obivously against osas doctrine. Jesus warns us, that we must be watch and be endure and confess our sins faithfully(repent), or... IF a person do not watch and repent, Jesus shall come to catch a person in as thief. Seems to me, that a person COULD be taken in unexpect and thrown out to join with unbelievers(please see Matt 24:48-51). Also, please read Rev. 2:5 says, "Remember therefore from whence thou are fallen, and repent, and so the first works; OR else I will come unto THEE quickly, and will REMOVE thy candlestick OUT of his place(WHY?)EXCEPT THOU REPENT." It is very obivously against osas doctrine. Jesus warns us, IF we do not watch and repent sin, He shall come on us quickly as thief, and remove us from his place, means he COULD remove our salvation. HUH??? Now back to first epsitle of John. 1 John 2:4 says, "He that saith, I KNOW him(Christ),(BUT...)keepeth NOT his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is NOT in him." In fact, too many Christians say or claim, they believed in Christ, BUT, they do NOT obey Lord's commandments or Words, so, that mean, they are not in Christ. in 2 Thess 1:8 warns, when Christ comes with his angels, a person shall be thrown into the eternality fire(WHY??)"that OBEY NOT the gospel of our LOrd Jesus Christ." Do not argue with me, argue with 2 Thess 1:8. I do not have to explain all in three epistles of John. I urge you to read whole three epistles of John. I can see non-osas doctrine in them. How about 1 John 5:13?? OSAS pastors often use this verse to prve it is eternality salvation because of our assurance. I love 1 John 5:13! I agree with 1 John 5:13, it is the PROMISE to us, that IF we believe in Christ, so, we CAN KNOW that we have eternal life. Or, otherwise, if a Christian stopped believing in Christ, could cause doubt in salvation. And a Christian could be removed from salvation. IF stopped believing in Christ. I urge you to read whole context of 1 John chapter 5, you will notice several words - "IF" in chapter 5. So, please think about the three epistkes of John, because I notice "IF" in three epistles. I consider the key word of the three epistles of John is "IF". It is conditional salvation. I will continue discuss more another scriptures to prove them are not unconditional salvation. In Christ Rev. 22:20 - Amen!