One in Five Stars in our Galaxy have Habitable Zone planet

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  1. BobRyan

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    Heb 1
    2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;

    Heb 11
    3 By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.

    Gen 1:
    16 Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also.

    see this link from Astronomy.com

    One in five stars has Earth-sized planet in habitable zone | Astronomy.com

    God is a "Creator" God -- and that means many stars... many planets,.... many worlds.
     
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    true, but ONLY 1 world with life created on it by him, earth!
     
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    Time will tell.
     
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    All of this intergalactic adventure is interesting for some. It is also expensive, perhaps wasteful. Our motives seem to be to verify if God exists and perhaps where we came from and where we are going.

    We already have the answers to all of the above questions revealed in the Word of God. Many choose not to believe.

    Repent, our redemption draws near--pico seconds in God's time.

    Where will we be in 100 years?

    Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

    Bro. James
     
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    I have no idea if there is intelligent life on other planets, but if there is, we can be assured God has revealed Himself to them in the manner appropriate to their existence and eternal destiny.
     
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    True - God is Love and God is Creator.

    "God so loved the WORLD that He gave" - seems to indicate that only this world has the sin problem.

    (Aside from that "war in heaven" thing with the angels)

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    The right position is only one of MANY other absolute requirements for life to exist.

    1. There must be an exact mixture of oxygen and carbon dioxide
    2. There must be a correct layer of atmospheric gases to sheild us from the gamma rays.
    3. There must be a correct star that is not too voltile
    4. There must be a correct orbital path to prevent extreme heat/cold
    5. There must be a right balance between water and land ratio
    6. There must be a right amount of green vegetation to produce the right balance of carbon dioxide.
    7. There must be a proper rotation and speed of the planet for the right gravitational pull.
    8. etc., etc.

    Check out the video "Our Prviledged Planet"
     
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    You beat me to it. Our planet is too fine tuned for their to be 20%. Privledged Planet is a great video demonstrating ID.
     
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    In the Privileged planet the point is that intelligent design is a more reasonable explanation for earth then just dumb-luck. In fact the Priv Planet movie points out a number of "benefits" that do not need to be here for life - but are here as if designed for our "Discovery". For example the fact that our moon is of a certain size and mass and orbit that it allows for "analysis" of the sun's atmosphere during a solar eclipse. The point in the movie is that such "just-so" design parameters are not "necessary for life" they are "there for discovery only". As if the special conditions here designed for observation of the sun and of the other galaxies are proof of I.D. of purpose - of intelligence.

    In my post above - the point is that the Bible focus on God "Creating the worlds" leads to the conclusion that we are not the only ones in the "Habitable zone" of a sun or habitable zone of the Galaxy and that if science had the ability to do a more comprehensive survey they would find worlds in habitable zones.

    I do not argue that "just-so" conditions "arrive by themselves" to make earth or any other worlds. So the Priv Planet list is not an argument against God making this world or even making "the worlds" as the Bible says.Rather it proves that looking for a just-so story for earth or any planet as if "such things happen on their own" is not going to work even for one single planet. It must be design, it must be on purpose. And so the one who is doing it - says HE "made the Worlds".

    So then when the athiest evolutionist finds other planets in the habitable zones - and notices that the Bible predicts not only that "God so Loved the World" but also that God "made the WORLDS" -- even they might be awake enough to admit that creation science does in fact make predictions. Predictions hotly debated in science and experiment and research confirms - such as science is validating the Big Bang, Just like the single blood line for Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam, just like the prediction of failed abiogenesis experiements of Urey and Miller, just like the prediction that prokaryotes will not become eukaryotes, nor will bacteria turn into horses, and the Expanding Universe where God "stretches out the heavens like a curtain"...

    All predictions available from "Creation Science" where the Bible is taken seriously.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    It does not seem that you have ever personally watched this video! The movie does demand that life as we know it cannot exist except within several fine tuned perimeters or ratio's. These fine tuned ratio's are necessary for the existence of llife as we know it.
     
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    You missed the entire point of the post.

    It is nonsensical for the christian POV to argue that accidental factors and just-so stories account for our existence. We do not have to argue against special creation and laws of nature designed by God for life - to make our case. It would be nonsensical for us to go down such a road.

    So having watched the movie - I find that it is misguided in supposing that earth alone can benefit from God being able to arrange and create such life-promoting laws and circumstances. Rather all worlds that God creates could be placed in similar situations in the galaxy and relative to their own sun etc. The movie makes a good case for I.D. but does seem a bit befuddled when the obvious question comes up - if God can do that here - why should we believe He can't do that for other worlds in other solar systems?


    In any case - the Bible statement about God creating "other WORLDS" leads to the prediction in science that as our ability to inspecting neighboring habitable-zone solar systems improves and expands - we will find earth-like planets orbiting other solar systems.

    This as opposed to the prior tribal-knowledge among scientists that "we have no evidence at all of any other planets around any other suns" -- much less "discovery of habitable zone planets".

    I was arguing this case with my atheist physics profs at the University - back in the day and they were stuck at "we have no evidence that there even ARE planets outside of our solar system".

    I cannot be blamed for the fact that the Bible is reliable.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     

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