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One mistake Bush should admit...

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by Skandelon, Oct 21, 2004.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    I haven't heard that one before. I would really like some evidence of that, Joseph. Can you provide it?
     
  2. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Please allow myself to correct myself. John Kerry wasn't officially a member of the Communist Party USA. He only associated with their leaders such as Al Hubbard, met with the Communists Leaders of Vietnam in Paris, and is endorsed currently by the Communist Party USA.

    Please forgive my mistake. I apologize for the mis-statement.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  3. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Okay, Joseph. I thought maybe I had missed something durinng this long, long, long, long, long, long 2004 presidential campaign.
     
  4. Joseph_Botwinick

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    His campaign slogan came from the poem of a communist supporter and Kerry quoted most of the poem when he spoke before either the NAACP or Jesse Jackson's group. We had a whole thread on that.
     
  6. LadyEagle

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    Huh????

    How many, 14 (?), of the hijackers on 09/11 were from Saudi Arabia? Saudi Arabia has been the motherlode funder of terror throughout the Middle East, including OBL and the Palestinians. So why didn't we go after the King / Prince Dudes? And why did we let the relatives of OBL leave from Boston?

    Oh. Diplomacy. And of course those pesky business connections.
     
  7. Skandelon

    Skandelon <b>Moderator</b>

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    Oh brother!

    We kicked Al Qaeda's butt for 6 months following 9/11 and continue to hunt them down as they hide out in holes in the middle of desert. Saying that Bush lost focus on terrorism by going after Saddam in Iraq is like saying Jesus lost focus on Peter by converting Paul. Both apostles need to be discipled and Paul helped Peter in the long run. Both Osama and Saddam were threats and to think that we should have only focused on one of them is near sighted and so obviously politically motivated that it reeks.

    I have no doubt in my mind that Bush could have done EXACTLY what Kerry is now recommending that he should have done with his armchair quarterbacking critiques and still you Democrates would be whinning a belly aching about how horrible Bush is. It is pure politics!

    Bologna! That is a bunch of HOG WASH and you know it. Sight one crediable source to back up this outrageous claim and then explain why that source isn't being played by all the liberal media outlets 24/7.

    I agree that Bush should have been putting military pressure on Osama, duh! Everyone knows that now with the benefit of hindsight. Clinton didn't put military pressure on Osama like he should have in response to the Cole and other acts he did during his 8 years but I don't blame him, at that time the system was flawed and the thinking was that diplomacy would keep Osama at bay. 9/11 taught us all a lesson...well most of us. Kerry still thinks more sanctions and summits would be the way to handle real threats.

    I don't remember Saddam taking part in the attack on 9/11.</font>[/QUOTE]I NEVER said he did. That is just like you liberals. You can't see that we are talking about more than one threat to our nation. The connection between Osama and Saddam is minor as far as the Al quada Iraq connection. But the real connection is that they both posed a threat to our country, both Bush and Kerry admit that, and Osama succeeded in caring out his threat so what should we do about the other? Handle it the same way we handled the first threat, with more diplomacy and sanctions, we already saw how that works. Wake up!

    You just don't listen do you! I never said Saddam hit us and neither did Bush. That has been a Democratic talking point and you have swallowed it hook line and sinker. The issue is the way we handle threats to our country.

    Neither threat was being handled well before 9/11, we all see that now. We need to drop the parisian rhetoric and learn from our mistakes, that includes Bush. We handled Osama poorly and he hit us at home, so another DIFFERENT and UNCONNECTED threat called Saddam also should be handled poorly? Of course not. Correct the mistake. Learn to act when you see a threat instead of waiting from them to hit us.
     
  8. Skandelon

    Skandelon <b>Moderator</b>

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    Huh????

    How many, 14 (?), of the hijackers on 09/11 were from Saudi Arabia? Saudi Arabia has been the motherlode funder of terror throughout the Middle East, including OBL and the Palestinians. So why didn't we go after the King / Prince Dudes? And why did we let the relatives of OBL leave from Boston?

    Oh. Diplomacy. And of course those pesky business connections.
    </font>[/QUOTE]I totally agree! I think he should have gone into Saudi Arabia too. I'm not so partisan as to think its because of Oil business. That's stupid! As a Texan I know Bushes history in the oil business and it didn't last long because he lost money and he had much more success owning the Rangers. Maybe there are baseball connections in Saudi Arabia?? :rolleyes:

    Actually I think I read we do have a number of troops there too. I think we should do more there too but just think what you liberals would do if he did that. He might be even more unpopular in the world. Oh no!
     
  9. LadyEagle

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    Skandelon, I am not a liberal. I am more conservative than GW on nearly everything. [​IMG]

    You do know, don't you about the Bush-bin Laden connection? And Carlyle? It's been well documented.

    Saudi Arabia continues to fund Osama bin Laden.
     
  10. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Hey Skandelon,

    You do know about Roswell, don't you? [​IMG]

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  11. The Galatian

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    Barbarian observes:
    War is a failure of diplomacy. The only existing superpower should be able to enforce its will without ever firing a shot.

    Assuming a competent leader, of course.

    Yep. But we weren't the only surviving superpower. In fact, we were militarily weak when Roosevelt took office, and were still behind when Pearl Harbor took us into the war.

    Wouldn't be the first time you were completely wrong.

    They aren't a government. They are just a criminal conspiracy. The governments who shield them should be threatened in order to get them to stop. Only if prolonged pressure fails, should we go to war.

    Technically, you're right. We didn't actually try diplomacy. We made a few perfunctionary demands and then took them out. We were angry, and spoiling for revenge. Even if the Taliban had turned over Osama and his cronies, we wouldn't have been appeased. That war was simply the collective rage of the American people focused on an obvious enemy.

    No. First, no one from Iraq attacked us. Second, Saddam was making one concession after another, in response to the proper use of military might, as a threat. Notice, that as the process went on, Bush first demanded destruction of WMD, then changes in Iraqi government, and finally the expulsion of Saddam and his sons. Why? Because Bush needed another war, and Saddam was starting to cave. So Bush upped the demands to something Saddam would not do.

    As one neocon put it, the opposition is stuck in a "reality-based mindset." The war on terror should be conducted against terrorists. That hardly needs to be said, except for the neocons, one of whom, when reminded that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11, responded that all the good targets were in Iraq.

    Not now, at least. Since Bush removed the secular party ruling Iraq, the resulting anarchy led to the terrorists taking over.

    You see the foolishness of acting without thinking?
     
  12. Hardsheller

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    Yeah, It's almost as bad as foolish thinking. :D
     
  13. Skandelon

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    Oh, well then you must be right. :rolleyes:

    So well documented that CBS was willing to run its piece on a National Gaurd story they had no real documents to support and pass up this supposedly well documented story of a lifetime? Get real!

    Joseph, Roswell is better supported than this jibberish. Its amazing how partisian politics blinds people's judgement. Bush failed miserably in the oil business and then later found his fortune in baseball. I bet Bush is connected with the Rose family and illegal baseball gambling, what do you think? Let's document it. I'll call the Enquirer, you call the Star. Maybe they'll run it on their front page right beside the articals about the 200 pound new born with 13 eyes and the alien Oprah married. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  14. The Galatian

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    Fortunately, there was still a witness around who remembers the real memos...

    "Knox is 86 years old, and completely comfortable in the eye of a storm. She spent more than two decades keeping pilots and officers in line at Ellington Air Force Base in Houston. Now, she wants to set the record straight about the memos that CBS News obtained.

    Knox says she didn’t type these memos, but she says she did type ones that contained the same information.

    “I know that I didn’t type them," says Knox. "However, the information in those is correct.”


    Rove probably didn't expect that one to show up. Setting up fake memos to be refuted later probably seemed like as good an idea as his "send the debate practice tapes to Gore" idea originally seemed last time around. But it seems to have backfired again.

    We know the memos Rather got were copies, but now, thanks to the Colonel's secretary, we know the information on them is correct.

    And yes, Bush's connections to the bin Ladens, Carlisle Group, and the infamous BCCI scandal are well-known. Would you like some sources?
     
  15. Skandelon

    Skandelon <b>Moderator</b>

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    Galatian,

    You missed the point. As usual your partisan blinders prevent you from any rational thought.

    I couldn't care less about whether or not Bush reported for duty or broke a command or two over 20 years ago, just like I don't care about the accusations brought against Kerry concerning Veitnam. It tells us very little about their current policies and leadership. Good night, if that really matter to you liberals why in the world did you vote for a draft dogding Bill Clinton over Bob Dole?

    The point was that CBS was willing to run with a story about Bush with very scetching documentation and you and Lady Eagle expect us to believe that they have just neglected to run the well documented and crediable story about "Bush, Carlisle, and Bin Laden connection."

    If this stroy is so crediable then why have all the crediable news sources ignored it? There a thousands of liberal reporters in all of those major news agencies who are chomping at the bit to take out Bush with a story like this, yet somehow they must have missed it....hmmmm. [​IMG]

    Galatian, please never leave the Baptist Board. You are a great comedic relief. I just wouldn't believe people like you actually exist if you weren't here. ;)
     
  16. Terry_Herrington

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    Galatian, you should lighten up on these Bush-supporters. It is humorous to see them vent their anger toward you when they cannot refute your logic. But, I guess once a Bush kool-aid drinker always a Bush kool-aid drinker. :D
     
  17. LadyEagle

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    Here's reality:

    Results 1 - 10 of about 27,300 for bush carlyle bin laden. (0.81 seconds)

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bush+carlyle+bin+laden


    Like I said. It's well documented.
     
  18. Skandelon

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    Terry due to the medium of a written message board you mistook my being amused with anger. People with such views as Galatian (and apparently you) support make me laugh because you're so obviously blinded by your partisian opinions. I don't like a lot of things about Bush. I think he spends like a liberal. I hate his immigration policies but I can be objective and I feel Bush is much lessor of the two evils.

    The fact that Kerry supports the use of the partial birth abortion proceedure alone should disqualify him from any decent person from voting for him. I wish third parties were given a fair opportunity to compete, and I'm willing to do what I can to help support those who are going to make that happen, but until then I will vote for the man who best represents my views. By far that would be GW.
     
  19. Skandelon

    Skandelon <b>Moderator</b>

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    Here's reality:

    Results 1 - 10 of about 27,300 for bush carlyle bin laden. (0.81 seconds)

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bush+carlyle+bin+laden


    Like I said. It's well documented.
    </font>[/QUOTE]First, a search on google is hardly considered as crediable documentation. Second, many of those results could be denouncing such absurd conclusion. Third, there are over a million results for "Roswell" but does that make it true? Fourth, this still doesn't answer the question as to the reputable news organizations (many of which are quite liberal) lack of coverage of this so-called well documented story.
     
  20. foxrev

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    George W. Bush is the ONLY choice for a Christian to make. How can a Christian, with any conscience vote for a man who is pro-abortion, pro-sodomite? If you vote for Kerry, you are voting for a man who opposes the Truth of God and God Himself.
     
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