One thing one has to admit about Hillary Clinton...

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  1. KenH

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    she doesn't have a glass jaw.

    After Senator Obama failed to seal the deal after massively outspending her in Pennsylvania, she now has a path to the nomination...and to victory in November.

    She needs to win Indiana and pull an upset in North Carolina on May 6. If she did this, then the super delegates would begin to flock to her. Then she could unite the party by picking Senator Obama as her running mate.

    A Clinton/Obama ticket would probably be stronger in the general election than an Obama/Clinton ticket. I think that it is apparent now that that Senator Obama just doesn't have the populist appeal to blue collar households that Senator Clinton has.
     
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    Do I smell another flip flop comin? :)
     
  3. KenH

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    Nope. Just providing analysis that is worth what you paid for it. :)

    I have already stated that I would support Senator Clinton if she wins the Democratic nomination. Senator Obama is my first choice for that spot.
     
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    $0.00 I wouldn't doubt the value at all.
     
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    Say it with me, President Hillary Clinton.

    Just rolls right off the tongue.

    Remember who's been saying it all along, when it happens. I expect a lot of P.M.s saying........ "you da MAN!!!"
     
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    "Say it with me, President Hillary Clinton."

    Okay, let me try that President Bill Clinton - did I get it right, uh no, sorry, uh President Hillbama Oclinton, is that closer?

    Actually if there is either an obomba/clinton or clinton/obomba ticket there would be a case of liar liar pants on fire I think since they both said no to that already :thumbs: course we all know how excited a lie might make the American public these days.
     
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    I will have to admit it,. Although I predicted Hillary after the election of '04 I really thought Obama would do it earlier this year. I also thought that America had outgrown racism. From the exit polls and the demographic results it is pretty clear to me that between Clinton and Obama his only weakness is his skin colour.

    Get used to it folks - President Hillary Clinton and Vice-president Barak Obama.
     
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    Like this is something new. Anybody remember 1980?
     
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    All of this beats: President John McCain!
     
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    I believe that you are selling the American white populace short. I can judge character and policy stance over skin color any day. Alan Keys has gotten my vote twice now. Your comment is very offensive and is in and of itself very racist.
     
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    I am glad we have our own opinions and are free to have them. My comment being "racist" mystifies me though.

    My point was between Obama and Clinton only, that was clear in the post. The only thing "going for her" between them is her skin colour.

    Demographics don't lie.

    You really don't think America is still racist? I agreed with you till yesterday. I thought Obama was electable until then.
     
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    As a whole, America is not racist. Among Democrats? yes! :smilewinkgrin: Obama is not unelectable because of skin color, he is unelectable because of LoS.*


    *Lack of Substance.
     
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    Perhaps a good analogy here is that Senator Obama might be like the Milwaukee Brewers last baseball season. The Brewers were a young team and did great for a long time but faded down the home stretch and missed the playoffs. Senator Obama is not proving to be a strong frontrunner.

    What is disappointing from my standpoint is that Senator Obama outspent Senator Clinton 2-3 to 1, yet still lost by 10% and still can't connect with blue collar voters.

    What has kept Senator Clinton's campaign alive is her solid base among white women. If she can expand beyond that in Indiana and North Carolina and win on May 6, then I think the super delegates flock to her.

    And there can be no doubt now that if Michigan and Florida voted in a primary that Senator Clinton would have sold wins there as well.
     
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    White racism explains it all then? What about the views of his spiritual mentor -

    "God d—- America."
    "U.S. of KKK A."
    "Garlic noses."
    "9/11 was a wake-up call for white America"


    Those comments probably convinced many Democrat voters that Obama was not so post-racial after all.

    Or some of his policy positions, that may not have set well with mainstream Democrats -

    Voted against speeding up the permit process for new oil refineries,
    Voted against making English the official language of the U.S.,
    Voted against permitting law enforcement officers to question individuals
    about their immigration status.
    Etc.

    Or some of the ridiculous comments by his wife on the campaign trail, for example -

    "Barack Obama is the only person in this race who understands that,
    that before we can work on the problems,we have to fix our souls
    Our souls are broken in this nation".


    There may be many reasons, having nothing to do with race, why more traditional Dems didn't vote for Obama.

     
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    "The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks."

    There was never a claim made here that racism goes one way.
     
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    How much would have been enough, and not too much? [​IMG]

    Well that's usually what people mean when they speak of racism in America; white racism. Could be that I misunderstood your point.
     
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    EXACTLY !!!!!

    Remember, Roger, Jesse Jackson has said blacks are incapable of racism, it's drilled into our heads racism only goes one way.

    Hillary got only 8% of the black vote ? Is that accurate ? And Obama got something like 42% of the white vote ? And all that without a dime's difference between the two, policy wise. In this case, if racism applies at all, it looks like Hillary may be the vistim of racism.

    All that said, it wasn't the blowout I expected, but Obama's knees are wobbling, this morning, I'm sure.
     
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    I will never get used to it, but we might as well get it over with because they arent going to go away regaredless. If Obama and Clinton refuse to team up I dont think McCain can be beat. The problem is who is willing to play second fiddle. If BHO gets the nomination HRC will jump at the VP spot because she will see it as a way to become president. (know what I mean?). I dont think BHO will accept the VP offer.
     
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    And the chaos continues!:laugh:
     
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    While some of you guys (and gals) begin your victory partying, I'm still praying that God would send us a pro-life president. I think that if we don't stand for innocent human life, God will send our nation judgment.

    Come to think of it, either an Obama or Clinton presidency might just be the judgment of God on America.
     

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