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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by webdog, Jun 24, 2012.

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  1. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
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    Neither do mostcalvinists!

    Would hold thatHe predestines those elected in christ to receive eternal life, but permits the rest to have their own will, away from God!
     
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    Thank you, Yeshua1. That is exactly right.

    The Scriptures state, "... are condemned already..."

    God does not need to determine who goes to hell. All are hell bound already. It is the state of the unregenerate.

    BUT for the Grace of God, there is no salvation.


    God has no obligation, nor can humankind assume that God is unfair by not redeeming all.

    That is as God wills. That is as Scriptures teach.

    Illustration:
    I just got back from the produce section of the store.

    No fruit had self volition to hop into the basket. The fruit had no words of language or thoughts that in which I considered listen. The fruit could do nothing of itself, but eventually rot. I did not redeem all the fruits, only a few that I chose, that I considered I wanted, to suit the purpose I of my choosing. I plucked out of the many that which I chose and gently placed it were I willed.

    I am not God, but that is not too far off from what God does with humankind.
     
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    Read it again. You are still attacking him for expressing his beliefs.

    Bull. I make those decisions all the time, and so do you, unless you are a universalist. In fact, any exclusive claims of salvation whatsoever, necessitate calling others lost. Are people who don't believe in Jesus saved? Define belief. Define saved. Define Jesus...

    YOU do not even live by what you are saying (unless you tell Buddhists and Atheists they are going to heaven, in which case you need to quit posting in the Baptist section...)

    It is hypocrisy, plain and simple.

    Right back at you. I am getting sick of you telling people who are simply affirming their belief that they are "attacking" people, and breaking the rules. That is ridiculous.
     
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