Orb

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Danny Hurley, Jan 16, 2008.

  1. Danny Hurley

    Danny Hurley
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2008
    Messages:
    97
    Likes Received:
    0
    Can anyone shed any light on EPH- 5-19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord.

    Whats the difference between these types of songs?
     
  2. David Lamb

    David Lamb
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2006
    Messages:
    2,982
    Likes Received:
    0
    Could you explain the thread title, "Orb"? I expect it is something that ought to be quite obvious, but it is puzzling me. Thanks!
     
  3. Joshua Rhodes

    Joshua Rhodes
    Expand Collapse
    <img src=/jrhodes.jpg>

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2003
    Messages:
    3,944
    Likes Received:
    0
    I thought the title "orb" wsa a reference to the "Orbs of the Prophets" in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. Oops!
     
  4. Virginia ORB

    Virginia ORB
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2006
    Messages:
    90
    Likes Received:
    0
    I think I can speak for brother Danny since we both are members of the Old Regular Baptists (ORB).

    Concerning the difference between hymns and spiritual songs, I believe that hymns address a certain theme, most of the time a certain point on doctrine, the church, etc. Spiritual songs, to me, are more generalized exhortive songs.
     
  5. Brother Bob

    Brother Bob
    Expand Collapse
    Banned

    Joined:
    May 13, 2005
    Messages:
    12,723
    Likes Received:
    0
    I will try to speak for him also, being this is just the second post he has made and the first thread. I am an Old Regular Baptist myself. Orb

    I was wonder what wsa means??? Warsaw??

    BBob,
     
    #5 Brother Bob, Jan 17, 2008
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 17, 2008
  6. David Lamb

    David Lamb
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2006
    Messages:
    2,982
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thank you. So is there is special relationship between Ephesians 5.19 and Old Regular Baptists? I am afraid I still don't understand the reason for the thread's title.
     
  7. Virginia ORB

    Virginia ORB
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2006
    Messages:
    90
    Likes Received:
    0
    Well, singing is an important part of our worship service. We sing from words-only hymnals with no musical notes and we use no musical instruments. Acappella only. A majority of our singing is "lined-out" or presented singing. So I guess brother Danny was trying to see how that scripture fits in with our style of singing.

    You can hear a sample of our singing here: http://www.oldregularbaptist.com/music.html
     
  8. Brandon C. Jones

    Brandon C. Jones
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2005
    Messages:
    598
    Likes Received:
    0
    I found Gordon Fee's discussion of this text in his book, "God's Empowering Presence," helpful.
     
  9. Joshua Rhodes

    Joshua Rhodes
    Expand Collapse
    <img src=/jrhodes.jpg>

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2003
    Messages:
    3,944
    Likes Received:
    0
    Oops... my fingers go faster than I do sometimes. sorry!
     
  10. Ed Edwards

    Ed Edwards
    Expand Collapse
    <img src=/Ed.gif>

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2002
    Messages:
    15,715
    Likes Received:
    0
    wsa is a dyslexic oops on was

    YBIC
    -Ed
     
  11. Palatka51

    Palatka51
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2007
    Messages:
    3,724
    Likes Received:
    0
    :laugh: :laugh:
     
  12. Rubato 1

    Rubato 1
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2006
    Messages:
    1,167
    Likes Received:
    0
    As far as I know (and this may not be very far), there is no strict practical definition for any of these labels besides what is implied by 'spiritual songs.'
    If I'm not mistaken, the word 'hymn' comes from the word 'hum', and technically refers ot the tune of a song, not the poem or words, unlike 'psalm' which refers to the words (esp. in a particular singable meter), regardless of the music.
    Thus, in Paul's day, it could have been that if you put a 'psalm' and a 'hymn' together, you had a 'spiritual song.' (I've never run this theory past a music historian. Or done an exegesis)

    Today, generally, a 'hymn' is considered to be a slower, more complex song of praise or worship of God (eg. When I Survey), while spiritual songs are equated with quicker, simpler gospel songs (eg. There's Power in the Blood, As the Deer, etc.) while a psalm tends to be scriptural in orientation, if not actually using scripture as its text.

    This thread might be better placed in the Music Ministry forum...
     
    #12 Rubato 1, Mar 13, 2008
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 13, 2008
  13. Rubato 1

    Rubato 1
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2006
    Messages:
    1,167
    Likes Received:
    0
    Here is Strong's 5603, for what it's worth. 5603 is the word translated 'spiritual songs'. According to this, tthe English word 'hum' would have come from 'hymn', not the other way around...
     
  14. pinoybaptist

    pinoybaptist
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2002
    Messages:
    8,123
    Likes Received:
    1

    Where does contemporary Christian singing fall ?
     

Share This Page

Loading...