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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by JesusFan, Dec 23, 2011.
Any other well known baptist teacher/pastor/theologians etc?
Some Spiritual gifts spoken of in the NT were only meant to be temporary and would be (or were, as the case may be) done away when their purpose was fulfilled. Take the gift of tongues, for example. What was the purpose for tongues? 1 Cor. 14:22 says that tongues, at the time of the writing of the Book of 1 Corinthians, were "for a sign, not to (Christians), but to (the Jew)..." Tongues had a purpose in the early church and that was to confirm to the Jew and to the world that God was turning from the Jew to the Church as His new people responsible for carrying and promoting the Truth. We see this method of confirmation in Mark 16:20 (in those versions that include the last verses in the Book of Mark): "...the Lord ... confirming the word with signs following."
Signs do nothing to aid in people believing God by faith, which is why Jesus said an evil and adulterous nation seeketh a sign, but "... there shall no sign be given to it, but (one)..." (Matt. 12:39). The Jews require a sign and tongues were given to the Jew as a sign, in Isa. 28:11: "For with stammering lips and another tongue will He speak to (the Jews)..." This is that prophecy spoken of in 1 Cor. 14:21. 1 Cor. 13:8 says tongues "shall cease...". When? We don't know, but it is assumed that when their purpose as a sign to the Jews is fulfilled, then they will just stop. It should be of some interest to note that, after 1 Corinthians 14:39, the gift of tongues is never again mentioned in the Bible. That tells me that, if they did not cease even before the Bible was finished, their value to the church was no longer of significance.
Thanks for the reply, just was asking IF any well known baptist person advocates at least the option of the Gifts still "open" today?
Sorry, I don't know any well known baptist persons. Thanks for allowing me to express myself in spite of my ignorance.
Grudem presently attends not a Baptist church, but some sort of "non-denominational" congregation.
He has really run the gamut over the years, starting out in the Reformed Church in America, moved on to Orthodox Presbyterian, Baptist General Conference, Southern Baptist, The Vineyard, and now a "non-denominational" church.
Not really a theologian, but here is Dr. Ron Phillips being interviewed on TBN by MannaFest's Perry Stone:
At 3:45 he proclaims:
Here is his church listed on the Southern Baptist Convention website.
He is also Chancellor of Berea Bible Seminary.
Martyn Lloyd Jones but he wasn't Baptist.