our founding fathers

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by corndogggy, Sep 5, 2006.

  1. corndogggy

    corndogggy
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2006
    Messages:
    1,103
    Likes Received:
    4
    Curious as to how many people here look up to our founding fathers as devout Christians? I'm not so sure that the situation is exactly as alot of people believe. Apparently alot of them weren't Christian at all, they were Deists, basically believing in God but not believing in Jesus being devine. Plus, they drank alot. George Washington was one of the biggest dark beer lovers in all of history. Benjamin Franklin once said "Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants to see us happy" (although he wasn't a heavy drinker, but I do like that quote). Thomas Jefferson was probably the most outspoken Deists of all of them, he had an awesome wine collection, he brewed his own beer, and had sex with his slaves. Last but not least, they were escaping religious persecution and wanted religious freedom for everyone. I just don't understand how I can read historic facts like this then see people who genuinely believe that these same people were all devout Christians and wanted Christianity in our government. I'm guessing that people WANT this to be the case, but from what I can tell, it wasn't.
     
  2. av1611jim

    av1611jim
    Expand Collapse
    Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2002
    Messages:
    3,511
    Likes Received:
    0
    I don't know how much of what you say is true or not.

    This much I DO know.

    No True Christian would lead a rebellion against their government.

    Do a word search on rebellion.

    God NEVER approves rebellion.
     
  3. Grasshopper

    Grasshopper
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2002
    Messages:
    3,348
    Likes Received:
    14
    So if they did, they weren't really a Christian? Or did they lose their salvation when they decided to join the rebellion? Therefore using your definition of "Christian", noone who fought the British were Christians. Interesting.
     
  4. J.D.

    J.D.
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2006
    Messages:
    3,553
    Likes Received:
    8
    So I guess all the southerners were lost because they rebeled against the federal government, and not to be forgotten are all the slaves that rebeled against their masters - they're all burning in hell, those rebels!
     
  5. corndogggy

    corndogggy
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2006
    Messages:
    1,103
    Likes Received:
    4
    Didn't realize there was a "history" forum, apparently there's a similar conversation over there. Wow, this place as alot of sub-forums.
     
  6. tinytim

    tinytim
    Expand Collapse
    <img src =/tim2.jpg>

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2003
    Messages:
    11,250
    Likes Received:
    0
    live and learn corndoggy, live and learn....
    This place is sooooo cool!!!

    BTW, I love reading Thomas Paine....talk about an atheist.
     

Share This Page

Loading...