Our government seeks to strip away more rights

If Randy Weaver's house had been taken out with a drone the headline would have been "Suspected meth lab explodes." Expect it to happen in the future.

 

An aside: A curious thing, the government's first mistake at both Ruby Ridge and Waco was shooting the dog.

 

Here we go again....

Would you please provide links to the articles so we can see the support for your, up to this point, unfounded--and therefore lying--statements?

 

So what you're saying is that I, knowing this is an unjust and unconstitutional piece of legislation, will follow illegal/immoral orders rather than fulfill my oath.

You know me so well.

 

Guess we're not gonna get that proof. . .again. . . .

 

The evil of the Nuremburg trials is that "following orders" no longer protects anyone yet I doubt that the principle could be successfully invoked in a courtmarshall (sp?) trial.

 

Several threads started, several replies to threads in other areas; but no attempt to provide proof of unfounded claims against the military.

Guess it's easier to just throw out bodacious claims and hold on to those dishonest ideas.

 

I don't foresee it in the near future at all. In fact, the Army is downsizing by the thousands by restricting re-enlistments and original contracts.

And here's where we start a whole 'nother debate: I believe that we should enact a law that mandates either enrolling in college and maintaining a certain grade point average, or mandatory military service for men from the age of 18-21. We would turn out more decent, educated, disciplined people in our society this way.

Let the roasting commence!

 

I have had that veiwpoint since I was 15. I didn't join the military until I was 24. I don't think the military ingrained that view into me.

And I believe that Don has repeatedly asked you for proof of your claim that the ex-military in the police force are largely responsible for brutality. He, as well as I, have shown that to be not only false, but foolish to even think, based on the numbers. So, if you have proof, please provide it. Otherwise,sit down, and let the big boys who do their homework talk.

 

What you are not saying is speaking volumes about you. You are not providing any proof to back up your claims. Touting opinions as fact without any evidence is lying, FAL. Unless you come to the table with facts, you have no place amongst those who discuss things. Back up your claim that ex-military are heavily involved in the brutality cases we've seen, and then maybe I'll start to take your claims seriously. Until then, you're no better than a machine, spouting of what it's been fed without actually reasoning it through.

 

You can't argue the facts, so you resort to calling a decorated soldier "dishonorable."

Yep, that's "honorable."

 

First off, your second sentence made no sense. I am not "hiding behind a uniform" in no way, shape, or form. I simply stated my opinion. It is you who inferred that I wanted to go against the constitution. It is because of the constitution that I would fight against the very thing that I think would be better for our nation. It is you who inferred that since I wish things were a different way, I wish to force my thinking on everyone else, regardless of the constitution. Wrong, it is simply the way I wish things could be.. Take my opinions at face value, and don't try and read more into them because I am military.

Second, repeating yourself (as you so often do) does not help to clarify your point in any way.

Third, I am still waiting on your proof. With this in mind, I am officially calling you a liar. You have lied, in that you have made definitive statements that purposely mislead. These statements are a guess stated as fact, without any proof to back you up.

 

Wow. You must not be thinking clearly. First, you say that the military is tending towards socialism, then you want to report me to my command for something you think they agree with? You're really not making any sense. But, if you think it'll do any good:

95th Sapper Co, 65th Engineer BN, 130th Engineer BDE
Schofield Barracks, Hawaii

<snipped out my commander and 1SG's name. Figured I'd better get their permission before posting their names. You can simply address anything to "The commander (or 1SG) of 95th Sapper Co>

So, I have been bold. Your turn. Where's your proof. Or are you lying? Methinks you are a liar.

 

I tried to PM you, but it didn't appear in my sent items. I tried to ask you to take out my commander and 1SG's names from my quote in your post. I should have PM'd them to you instead of posting them on the internet. Thank you.

Now, back to the debate:

You do realize that it's not against the constitution to want to change the constitution, right? That's why we have ammendments. Second, if I were touting a socialist agenda, it's not illegal. It's simply another viewpoint on how things should be run. Lastly, i am not touting a socialist agenda. I am simply stating an opinion that all young men should either attend college or join the military (yes, be drafted if they are not in college). Get America more educated and productive.

Now, where's your evidence? Or are you still lying?