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Our spirits go back to God after dying?!

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by xdisciplex, Jul 17, 2006.

  1. genesis12

    genesis12 Member

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    There's a country-western song with the lyrics "looking for love in all the wrong places, looking for love in too many faces."

    There is but one answer to thousands of questions: place your faith, hope, and trust in Jesus Christ. Look to Him every morning, throughout the day, and at night. If you wake up during the night, thank Him that He has all the answers. Ask Him for His Peace. Not doing this condemns you to eternal questioning with no peace. You go deeper and deeper into the abyss. One simply has to admit that he or she (and the folks in these forums) does not have the answers to a thousand questions. For the Christian, God does. You grow in His Knowledge, Wisdom, and Strength (spiritual understanding) as you talk to Him and walk with Him. There is no other solution.

    Soul, Mishelly, is the mind, the will, and the emotions. These are learned behaviors, learned mental constructs, having to do with the brain.

    spirit (small s) is the spirit that is imparted to you the instant you place your faith, hope, and trust in Jesus Christ, in response to the presence of the Holy Spirit, calling you, beckoning you to receive Him as Savior and Lord, immediately being saved for eternity.

    Spirit (capital S) is the Holy Spirit, the third person of the Trinity, that One who comes alongside to lead you to Christ, then to sustain you in your walk.

    The battle in this life is between the soul and spirit (small s). The soul wants to cling to learned behaviors, preconceived notions and ideas, reject Truth, look to itself rather than to scripture, rather than to pray. The spirit (small s) wants to be in constant communication with God, facilitated by the Holy Spirit. The soul/mind is at war with the spirit. The spirit gradually gains supremacy over the soul/mind as you yield to Christ.

    I hear from so many, in response to this teaching, "Yes, but......". There is no "yes-but". The teaching is solid. The need is to accept it through constant building up of the spirit, in Christ. One can continue in turmoil, or one can yield to Him. Yielding brings in the wonderful, marvelous, loving gift of the spiritual understanding of Christ. See 1 Corinthians 2:9-16. If your translation says "But we have the mind of Christ," simply cross out "mind" and insert "Spiritual insight and understanding" .... of Christ.

    Go for it! :thumbs: :flower:
     
  2. J. Jump

    J. Jump New Member

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    I would agree with you that the soul is your emotions. Your soul is basically a passive responder. It can rejoice with great joy at the postives that it sees coming down your road or it can scream in terror at the pain that is coming down your road, but it is incapable of doing anything about it.

    But how does that respond and mesh with this:

    For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

    The word "life" is the same word used for soul. So it seems to be saying that the soul is in the blood. But the blood doesn't have anything to do with mind, will and emotions?

    What do you think. I have been struggling with this. Does that mean that the soul is in the blood only for animals? But animals also experience pain and joy.

    Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

    Also I was a little confused as to what you were saying about a person's spirit. Do you think we don't have a spirit until we are saved? You said that our spirit was imparted to us at salvation, which sounds to me as if you are saying that we don't have one until then.

    Trying to clarify.
     
  3. BobRyan

    BobRyan Well-Known Member

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    #1. "The spirit goes back to God who gave it" according to God's Word. This is true of all. And this is key to the "resurrection principle". God puts that spirit into a physical body and once again - we are alive.

    #2. The soul is a term representing the whole person in Matt 10 and in Ezek 18 "The soul that sins it shall die".

    The actual mechanism for resurrection is via the spirit that "is you" -- but the term soul appears to also represent your entire existence so that if "you are destroyed" (all that is you with no possibility of resurrection) as in Matt 10 and "God Destroys both body AND soul in fiery hell" then the soul is destroyed.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
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