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Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by D28guy, Nov 18, 2004.
I recieved this in an email from a ministry.
Its so very sad.
Should say OUR liberal friends, not OUT
Oh, I don't know. It was a Freudian slip.
Our "liberal friends" have been OUTed
You wonder why they don't just leave Christianity and the Bible alone, since they think it is so "out of touch". They keep trying to redeem the Bible, but reinterpret it to their relativism, so the question you could ask is why? Perhaps they know deep down inside it's true, but don't want to follow it; so just "respect" it (As well as Jesus), ut change it to remve the undesireable teachings and demands. Perhaps if it turns out to be true after all, you'll even earn some brownie points.
I wonder how many folks get away from or avoid orthodox Christianity because of what they have observed in some others. I am reminded of what I heard a preacher say, "The worst advertisement for Christianity today is the average Christian." He is a professor at DTS.
There are certain groups I would be embarrassed to associate with. Some of those say they believe the Bible and pound the pulpits while non-believers talk about them and laugh and never hear the message.
It wasn't too long ago that I witnessed to a young man who told me when he was in high school that there were those students who went to a particular church in town who would seperate themselves form the rest of the students. They would eat by themselves at lunch and brunch. He told me they treated others as though they were afraid of some kind of poison. In another church a young lady began to start some Bible studies on that same campus. As a result the high school youth group at church began exploding. She started some Bible studies that met at lunch. Others began to start Bible studies too.
I well remember a professor in British Columbia, Canada, who was confronted by Billy Graham many years ago now. He said, if he became a Christian he would have to change his lifestyle. Throw out academics, along with everything else, because we might have to change our lifestyles.
What, gentlemen, is new? Christianity is all about change no matter how much we apply labels and different interpreations. When that change is altered in any way we are left with nothing. The historical Jesus is nothing more and nothing less than God revealed in the flesh. When Jesus is changed, the rest is irrelevant; it is meaningless.
I suggest we spend more time changing ourselves. This witness will do far more good than all the preachments in the world regardless of our theology.
Amen! Don't you think that so often before people are attracted to our God they see us? If our God is judgmental, unforgiving and bitter then who wants that God. But if our God is righteous and never wavers always forgiving and full of love and comapssion isn't that what people want?
I have liked the word I have heard. Before we talk to men about God we must talk to God about men. When I do that I cannot criticize. I cannot be bitter or condemn. I cannot be unforgiving. When I pray God changes my heart. He gives me what is good and helps me to throw away anything that is wrong.
Isn't it so true when we pick the log out of our own eye so often we are speechless aned have little or nothing to say except to say we are not so good either.
Sveral years ago I went to visit a friend of mine. He wanted me to visit a man he had been trying to reach. During our conversation the man told me there were too many hypocrites in the church. After a few minutes I told him I was a hypocrite because I Idon't always do what I know I should. The man replied, "Well I am a hypocrtite too. I don't always do what is right." within a few minutes the man listened to the gospel. I think we must be honest with people and not to try to cover up our wrongs or the wrongs of any church. The things that are true must not be covered up to make them look like they don't exist. We must always be honest. There is no perfect church, denomination or person, except God.
I believe the quicker we are to be humble the quicker God blesses.
I particulary "love" this...
Gee, I never knew that we evangelicals dont take the scriptures seriously because we take it so literally, and consider it the God breathed and only writtin authoritative truth from God.
Unfortnetly that goes for me as well. Its very frustrating, particularly when you are sharing truth with a lost person. The thing is, I may take issue with some of the exceedingly legalistic groups(as one example) in christianity, but if those groups come up in conversation with a lost person, I do associate myself with them. I share that "yes indeed those groups are wrong in some ways..." but I find some good things to say and I refer to them as brothers and sisters in Christ who are out of balance in their understanding. I find something to say like "They are definetly "bible believers" and I thank God for their commitment to Gods word, but..."
One time a chap said to me that he considered the Bible to be like a "Road Map", a guide. I disagreed then and I still do now, yet I know that opinion is quite popular around a number of churches.