Outlaw light bulbs and only outlaws will have light bulbs

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  1. KenH

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    Outlaw light bulbs and only outlaws will have light bulbs

    In the pursuit of better energy use, has the government gone mad?

    Washington, D.C. - Among the regulations packed into the newest energy bill that just passed Congress this week, a ban on the incandescent light bulb will officially end what Edison started 130 years ago. "If you outlaw light bulbs, then only outlaws will have light bulbs," says Libertarian Party Executive Director Shane Cory.

    "The ban on incandescent light bulbs may seem almost comical," says Cory, "but it raises several red flags on the level of government intrusion in people's lives. From the toilets in your bathroom to the lights in your ceiling, there are very few consumer products free from some form of government regulation. I seriously doubt regulating light bulbs was intended to be a necessary-and-proper role of the federal government."

    Incandescent light bulbs will begin to be phased out in 2012, with a complete ban finalized in 2014. Manufacturers will be forced to switch to compact fluorescent (CFL) bulbs, which can cost more than six times as much as the common incandescent bulb. While CFL bulbs are much more energy efficient, to maintain the bulb's longevity and achieve maximum efficiency, consumers must adhere to proper operating suggestions made by Congress, such as leaving the bulb turned on for at least 15 minutes.

    "Not only do consumers have to alter how they use light in their houses, they must also take a number of precautions with CFL bulbs that were unnecessary when using incandescent bulbs," says Libertarian Party Media Coordinator Andrew Davis. "Because of the toxic levels of mercury in CFL bulbs, consumers will need to check with their waste management providers for proper disposal methods, and consumers will also have to research how to clean up broken bulbs. These bulbs may save energy in the long run, but at a great inconvenience to the consumer."

    The Libertarian Party believes in free market solutions to environmental problems, and vehemently opposes government regulation that interferes with private business and personal liberty. The Libertarian Party also maintains that solutions cannot come from America's biggest polluter: the federal government.

    "How many Americans does it take to change a light bulb?" Davis asks jokingly. "I guess we'll have to wait for next year's energy bill to find out."

    The Libertarian Party is America's third largest political party, founded in 1971 as an alternative to the two main political parties. You can find more information on the Libertarian Party by visiting www.lp.org. The Libertarian Party proudly stands for smaller government, lower taxes and more freedom.

    - www.lp.org/media/article_550.shtml
     
  2. poncho

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    And along with that of course will be a new federal "homeland" agency of enviro spies and cops to feed and support. And then we'll see the mass media bliitz "operation snitch on yer buddy" encouraging good global citizens to spy on their neighbors and alert the authorities to any illegal lit homes.

    This stuff is getting out of hand.
     
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    Two corrections:

    Ken, the government has ALREADY gone mad.

    Poncho, this stuff has ALREADY gotten out of hand.

    :tonofbricks:
     
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    Cool! I thought Ken and I were the only ones that noticed. :thumbs:

    Maybe we ain't so crazy after all Ken. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    We used to have one color of incandescent bulb.
    Now we have 'torn retnia' yellow/orange and
    natural blueish light.

    The compact fluorescent (CFL) bulbs have
    changed from $10 each when I first used them
    to 3 or 4 for $10 -- the price is a function of the
    quantity made by machines -- CFL will go down
    when the new laws take place.

    Half the energy usage, twice as much light =
    four times as good.

    In 2002 I sold two houses.
    I had to pull out the fluorescent bulbs
    and replace them with incandescent
    (or lower the price so they could do it)
    I did it (gave me a start of fluorescent
    bulbs for my new house ;) )

    Yes, It is my American duty and duty as a
    Christian to wear seatbelts at all times I'm in
    an automobile ( ;) or sitting at my desk reading
    boring topics).

    Question:
    How come there is a fuss when the government changes
    the gallons per flush - but nobody fusses when the
    government pays for half our transport charge: road,
    rail, sea (building canals), and air.

    I know, I oppose all entitlement programs paid for by the
    government SAVE those to which I personally am entitled.
    Two faced smilie: ( : )
     
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    What an enlightening thread. I feel brighter already.
     
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    ==I am against the government "forcing" any such change.

    However I am all for people making the switch. Why? Because I am cheap!! Despite what the article says, the CFL bulbs are cheaper over time.

    I "made the switch" over a year ago and I have been very happy with these new bulbs. The main reason is that these bulbs last a long, long time. In fact, I am sitting in a room with two of those CFL bulbs burning and one of those bulbs has been used almost daily for around a year! I put that bulb in the ceiling fan light around a year ago and, after daily use, it is still burning bright. I call it superbulb! :laugh: Over the past year I have switched the other bulbs in the house and none of them have gone out yet.

    So while the bulbs may cost more at the time, the customer saves money over time by not having to purchase as many light bulbs. I would say that everyone should make the change.

    Btw, these bulbs also burn cooler than regular bulbs. That means they don't burn your hand as much if you are stupid enough to touch them (like I am).
     
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    In 1973 I went to a Ford place to buy a new car.
    I wanted high gas milage, low cost, and safety.
    They had fast starting cars and comfort that
    cost a lot.

    In 2002 I went to a Sports/Imports place
    to buy a new car.
    I wanted high gas milage, low cost,
    reliability, and safety.
    They sold it to me at half the price that
    the Ford place did (adjusing for inflation),
    28 MPG, air bags, sholder straps, and
    other neat South Korean stuff.
    It got 60K miles before it was totaled
    in a care accident where nobody was hurt.

    At the time I bought the South Korean car
    (KIA RIO) i was smoking South Korean
    cigarettes and watching a South
    Korean TV set.

    Once (in the late '80s) as I was going past the
    'information picket' outside the Chevy
    Factory in a foreign car (last year they made
    the VW Rabbit in Germany, next year
    they made it in the US) - the picket flipped
    me off. I was sore tempted to tell him
    that I had a US-made car in my driveway - dead.

    I then understood that the saying "buy a foriegn
    car and make 10 US workers loose their job"
    referred to the loss of jobs by 1 - car factory
    worker and 9 - auto maintanence technicians.
    Sorry, US manufacturers -- give me what I want,
    or I'll buy it form somewhere else.
    I do NOT want high performance (I'm in no
    hurry to waste my $100 tank of gas).
    I do NOT want quick starts (I know the entry
    to the interstate that is DOWNHILL).
    I do not want to win in the quarter-mile
    (I want a car that will fit the parking places).

    BTW, the Ford I bought new had a manufacture's
    defect (bad engineering, which no car dealer
    is able to fix) in the automatic choke - I must have
    bought $36 auto-choke installs a dozen or so.
    My father-in-law put a manual choke for $18
    and it was on the car when I sold it to

    Sorry, I think the government should help us
    citizens from being abused by Big Business :(

    BTW, the new data released Wednesday shows that
    Oklahoma is the #5 highest 'growth of economy' state
    for the third quarter of 2007. This is due
    largely to the high price of the benchmark oil
    type: Sweet Texas Crude (not to be confused with
    Sour Oklahoma Crude with too much wax in it,
    but that is a whole 'nother story).
     
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    You are correct! I beginning to see the light myself.
     
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    "In everything give thanks!":1_grouphug::praying::laugh::godisgood:
     
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    I, like Martin, have replaced nearly all of the "incans" in my condo with various types of fluorescent bulbs/fixtures. This was something I started doing 13 years ago as soon as I moved in, not because its a current trend.

    I did this not because I'm some kind of 'greenie nut case' (and I'm sure Martin isn't either!) but just that I have always disliked the uneven, shadowy lighting the bulbs throw off along with the tons of heat (only 5-10% of the electricity used in an incandescent is converted to light, the rest is converted to heat).

    Interestingly one of the biggest obstacles to converting to fluorescents is the "wife test", read this article titled "Fluorescent Bulbs Are Known to Zap Domestic Tranquility" from the Washington Post:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...9/AR2007042901500.html?nav=rss_print/asection
     
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    I also have met resistance from two wives now :(

    This month I ran into a blue light (my wife doesn't like the
    orangish ones) -- they are so cool, my grandaughter
    (10) who lives with us has three of them in her bedroom.
    (they go good with the blue curtains!
     
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    I guess I may have to store up as many regular light bulbs by 2012 as possible so I can go for as many years as possible without using the new fangled light bulbs.

    Resistance may be futile but I plan to not be assimilated by the federal government for as long as possible.
     
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    Don't have time to post.
    Trying to get 1-gal-flush un-stopped.
    So far I've used 24-gallons of of water
    trying to do what 1½-gal-flush pots
    could have done in the first place :(

    Anybody want to go back and discuss who
    was President when the 1½-to-1-gal mess
    happened :(
     
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    I'll be glad to sell you 200-Kilograms of CO2-offset
    you'll need each year for the first 3 years. I saved that
    much CO2 starting with the new-fangled bulbs when they
    came out. I spend on a hot month near $360 -
    that is 12 Bucks a year. I cut it down to about $240.

    A person can make more part-time working
    with the Compliance Branch (Electrical)
    of HomeLand Security than at those Plasma shops
    (and one doesn't end up near as weak & fatigued).
     
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    Sorry, but I am not participating in this Communistic "CO2-offset" baloney. The earth is big enough to take care of itself.
     
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    And you are leaving if the Earth decides that you are
    excess baggage???

    (recall that USGovernment goons may be monitoring
    -- uh, now it is called 'data mining -- this board.)

    He who posts last posts best ;)
     
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