P S T D is going to the Dogs

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  1. Salty

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    I am not surprised. One of my dogs has something similiar to PSTD after being hit by a car during a thunderstorm several years ago. I did not have him when this happened, but ever since he has been terrified of storms. And I'm not talking about nervous or shaking, I am talking about utter terror. The vet prescribed him "puppy prozak", which does no good, and a sedative which only works if you know the storm is coming one hour in advance.

    This should not surprise us. After all, animals such as dogs are intelligent and have feelings. They can, and do, suffer from many of the same emotional problems that people do. I imagine, but don't know, this would also apply to cats and other intelligent animals (domestic or wild).

    I've never understood why for so long the western church has tried to play down the role of animals. The Bible never does that. They are just as much a part of God's creation as we are. Yes we have dominion over them and they are not created in the image of God (as man is). However that does not, in any way, take away from the fact that they are intelligent and have feelings.

    Animals have souls (Gen 1:20, etc) and there will be animals in heaven (Is 11:6, etc). Will those be the same animals who populate this earth? We can't say no. Personally I believe, as CS Lewis, John Wesley, and others, that some of them will be the same ones.
     
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    Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.
     
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    ?? This is news to me....care to expand on it?
     
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    Dog gone it - :BangHead: :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    A soul is a mind, a will and emotion, or so I've been taught. What a dog doesn't have is a spirit, which allows God-consciousness.
     
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    Americans are insane over animals. The recent insanity around here is spaying feral animals (rabbits, cats) and turning them loose. Then there are horses . . . people don't know the difference between a tool, a pet, and food.
     
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    You're right. Animals can and do have emotional problems. I've read that monkeys can have mental illness and there are animal psychologists.
     
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    I second this understanding of the difference between a dog and a human. We were created in the image of God,they were not.
     
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    Do doggy psychologists use a couch? Just a thought. :tongue3:

    But yes, they can suffer trama just like humans can.
     
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    PTSD Is Going to the Dogs

    Dear Billwald,

    You wrote : " Americans are insane over animals. The recent insanity around here is spaying feral animals (rabbits, cats) and turning them loose. Then there are horses . . . people don't know the difference between a tool, a pet, and food. "

    Regarding spaying feral cats then releasing them...It's not insane, but the right thing to do. Some feral cats may never be able to be " re-domesticated ", so to prevent the diseases,starvation,and other suffering of the cats,the compassionate thing to do is to spay them so that the ferals will die out. These cats will never trust a human again...The humans who threw them out should be punished for doing so ! Is abandoning cats,dogs,etc.,caring for God's creation ?

    As for the horses,rabbits comment, I don't get your point...

    Proverbs 12: 10 : " A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel ".
     
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    PTSD Is Going to the Dogs

    Yes, dogs and cats do suffer from trauma caused by humans,just like people do. Any one who has either volunteered at rescue shelters knows so. It takes alot to get them to trust people again.

    My wife and I have rescued a couple of cats and the sense of gratitude that they express to us exceeds any human being.

    As for trauma...Our first cat, Tabby( RIP 04/2007 ),was found by my wife by the garbage dumpster in our old apartment complex. One night, he followed me into the apartment and he stayed. I made the mistake of putting his food and water bowls in the dishwasher for cleaning. He saw that the bowls were " gone " and began to cry and actually shake. I guess that he was afraid that we were going to throw him out. So,he knew in his own way that he should have a reason for fear, I got the bowls out,filled them with food & water and he was happy,gratefully rubbing me with his head and purring loudly.

    And for 18 years, he's shown nothing but a grateful happiness.
     
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    Mutts gone nuts!
     
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    Rabbits are food. In most parts of the world horses are food. Last time I looked a carton of 22 cal ammo was 30 bucks for 500 rounds.

    Years ago a friend raised rabbits for food inside city limits. One good smack on the head with a chunk of iron pipe and they didn't feel a thing.
     
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    Okay, I have to chime in: Y'all do realize that the animals talked about in this article are the dogs used by the military to sniff out explosives, such as IEDs, as well as other tasks? Including protecting their military handlers?

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    As a story goes from some time back, an officer's wife had been waiting in the dentist's office with her two children for over half an hour, aware that some type of emergency case was coming in and therefore willing to wait; when they suddenly burst in with a military K-9 on a stretcher and wheeled it to the treatment area. The woman stood up and immediately started berating the young enlisted person behind the desk, complaining how she had been patiently waiting, only to have a dog go in first.

    The young enlisted informed her, "Ma'am, the dog's active duty."
     
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    The Army turned the dog into a weapon/tool. The weapon/tool broke, was used up. Compare a family pet with a junkyard dog. When ammo is fired one doesn't expect to salvage the lead.
     
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    Although that's a really poor analogy in this case...you forget that you can salvage the casing, reload the casing, and use it again.
     
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    You wouldn't reload if you could buy equivalent factory ammo at half the price.
     

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