Paid Leave

Wow: so once again another trademark Rush Limbaugh phrase ends up in the Politics forum. Interesting......

As for the paid leave, I am rather astonished that anyone would be against this. As for it being abused, did anyone notice the amount of money that will be paid?

Regards SALTCITYBAPTIST, hope all is well with you and yours,
BiR

 

Here's another bombshell: many families cannot afford to relinquish a second income. Where are the good schools? Where are the best neighborhoods to raise families? They are out in the suburbs. Have you seen what the average home costs out in most suburbs? Try going up to Washington, DC and look at the housing prices in the NorVA and Maryland areas. Any bargains are in the most extreme outlying areas of the cities. Now look at gasoline prices. I am lucky enough to be an urban dweller (no kids) and I cannot imagine having to pay at the pump to drive in from the outlying areas.... and this is Richmond. We aren't exactly a large city.

Hope all is well, Pastor Larry,
BiR (still praying for you and your ministry every day)

 

Rush's disdain for women comes across loud and clear. He never misses an opportunity to bully them and make up cutely little derogatory names. I wonder if this is why this so-called "family values" loudmouth can't seem to stay married.

 

So Salty, you view cats and guns as having the same value as children or parents? Interesting view, but neither I, nor FilmProducer, have espoused such a position.

 

Let me add that I am always amazed at how so-called "pro-lifers" are all over protecting "babies" at the point of conception, but once they are born, to heck with them. They don't need health insurance, they don't need government assistance to eat or go to school, and they sure as shootin' don't need their moms & dads to have a few weeks off work at reduced pay to take care of them while they get settled into their homes.

 

Complete idiocy.

 

First, the "I" was used generically as someone who is being charged to give benefits to someone else. Secondly, the fact that people are paid to take time off should not be a government mandate. If a company wants to offer that, then fine. Offer it. But don't force them to.

Sure it is. It is about the role of families and parents. Think about it. A mother needs 12 weeks of leave so she can keep her job. why not give up her job for the sake of raising a family? Again, it is about a fundamental issue in the way we think about families.

 

Of course grandparents are family. Why would you think that I don't consider them that? You need to read more closely. But grandparents are not given the responsibility to raise children.

 

Not at their current standard of living they can't. But what demands that standard of living? Think about it realistically. I have no issues with anyone's standard of living. But that is not a right. I bet that women work to afford a bigger house, a second car, and better stuff. They could get by on what their husband makes, if they are willing to step down their standard of living.

Where mom and dad take their children and their responsibility seriously.

Where parents take their responsibility to their children seriously.

Not necessarily.

The difference is parents, not neighborhoods.

 

I haven't seen anyone here say that.

They actually don't, but it is good to have it. It is available for all children.

They don't. Kids grew up for millenia without government assistance. Why are we so weak as to think we need it now?

Mom and Dad don't need a few weeks off of work. They need to decide who is going to stay home and raise the family. Why get settled into a home that you are not going to spend much time in? Many children spend more waking hours with their daycare worker than with their parents. That is a problem.

So, don't make up what people say. And pay attention to real issues. We don't need more income in this world. Successful parenting can take place with a lot less income and a lot lower standard of living than we are used to.

 

The something for nothing crowd in this country continues to grow and includes many on this board.

 

Amen, PL !!! :thumbs:

 

Do you know what the median home price is in the area I referenced?

HUH?
What does this mean?

Perhaps in your neck of the woods it is a more realistic expectation.....

 

Not exactly, but that's not my point. We all make choices about what is important to us. What requires someone to live in that area? It is not unheard of for someone to move, to take a new job, to do something different. People all over the world do it.

It means that children are best raised where parents take their responsibility seriously. Many parents do not. They farm their kids out to day care in exchange for a bigger house, a second or third car, nicer stuff, etc.

It is a realistic expectation all over for people who make changes in their priorities. No one can live beyond their budget for very long. If you decide to live on one income, you adjust your budget and your living accordingly.

Is someone forcing a person to live in a two income lifestyle? I doubt it. We have choices and we set priorities. When I was growing up, we were not rich by any stretch. We could have used two incomes, but my mom made the choice to be home when the kids were home. When we were in school, she took a part time job. But when we were home, she was home. It affected the way that we lived. And it was well worth it.

 

Moving isn't always an option.

You are making a rather broad generalization, aren't you?

You are again making a broad generalization, aren't you?

Some don't have a choice PastorLarry.

 

He said "liberal vs conservative", not "republican vs democrat", which is often equal to saying "liberal vs liberaler".

 

You forgot to include the problem that it's now OK to steal, as long as it's "for a good cause" or "a majority has said it's OK".

It's moral relativism.

If I go up to you and threaten your life if you don't give me your money, I'm a criminal.

If the government threatens your life if you don't give them your money, it's all A-OK.

 

When our son was born, my wife and I, for reasons that don't need exploring at this juncture, had to both work.

I was at home in the daytime while she was at work, we spent the evening together as a family, then I worked at night. After a while, the schedule changed slightly, and we occasionally had to get help from family (we were blessed that at one point, we were offered the opportunity to make about 3 months' pay in three weeks, but we had to work a lot of hours, and our son got to spend some quality time with his grandparents), but we were there to take care...

Ding! It just dawned on me! Spurned by quality ideas of BiR and MP, I have the solution!

Simply give everyone 11 months' of paid leave per year.

Then, pass a law raising minimum wage to $120 per hour.

Then, mandate housing prices.

Then, food prices.

Then, gas prices.

Oh, and we can't forget health care. Simply make it free.

Then, pass laws that determine who is required to become a doctor since very few will now want to.

Give everyone a free car.

Anything else we need that we can give away while we're at it?