Palin wouldn't protect the Women and Children

LeBuick · Sep 19, 2008

Looks like another reason came out as to why Palin fired Public Safety Commissioner, Walt Monegan. According to Palin's lawyer, ""The last straw," her lawyer argued, came when he planned a trip to Washington, D.C., to seek federal funds for an aggressive anti-sexual-violence program."

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Alaska leads the nation in reported forcible r@pes per capita, according to the FBI, with a rate two and a half times the national average – a ranking it has held for many years. Children are no safer: Public safety experts believe that the prevalence of rape and sexual assault of minors in Alaska makes the state's record one of the worst in the U.S. And while solid statistics on domestic violence are hard to come by, most – including Gov. Palin – agree it is an "epidemic."
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Why would a Christian "pro-family," "pro-woman" Governor not want to invest in protecting the women and children in her state?

rbell · Sep 19, 2008

Oh, good grief.

This Palin stuff is getting stupider by the minute. It's mirrored by the rumor-mongering against Obama.

Whatever happened to thoughtful evaluation of the candidate? What's next...we let Weekly World News pick our leaders?

LeBuick, when you accuse a leader of "not wanting to protect women and children" against rape, you're just about in slander territory. You don't want to vote for her? Fine...but don't engage in this kind of junk.

And yes, I did bust the chops of a couple of people whe engaged in the same type of behavior towards Obama.

Good grief.

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Revmitchell · Sep 19, 2008

Did you read the whole article?

Several victims' advocates noted that Palin did agree to a two percent increase in funding for victim assistance this year. But a March study by a state task force found that level of funding only covered the cost of helping women and children hurt by the epidemic of sexual violence. It was not enough to try to prevent assaults from happening – or to ensure "accountability of offenders," as the panel phrased it.

In a press release Thurs., the director of an Anchorage women's shelter defended Palin's leadership on the issue. In addition to approving the funding increase, Gov. Palin boosted anti-violence efforts by "publicly speaking out against domestic violence," noted Judy Cordell, director of Abused Women's Aid in Crisis (AWAIC). The state legislature also passed a tough anti-strangulation law while Palin has been in office, Cordell said.
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carpro · Sep 19, 2008

A PDS sufferer grasping at another straw.

Whowillgo · Sep 19, 2008

Sir, why would you post a thread title such as this only to post a partial article? Knowledge can be very dangerous without the wisdom to investigate before accepting. Please take the time to think how this looks for a professed believer to act in this manner.

LeBuick · Sep 19, 2008

rbell said:

LeBuick, when you accuse a leader of "not wanting to protect women and children" against rape, you're just about in slander territory. You don't want to vote for her? Fine...but don't engage in this kind of junk.

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That facts hurt, doesn't it. I hatted to have to bring the news but I thought you should know. Being the good Brother I am...

LeBuick · Sep 19, 2008

Revmitchell said:

Did you read the whole article?
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Yes, did you read what you quoted?

Several victims' advocates noted that Palin did agree to a two percent increase in funding for victim assistance this year. But a March study by a state task force found that level of funding only covered the cost of helping women and children hurt by the epidemic of sexual violence. It was not enough to try to prevent assaults from happening – or to ensure "accountability of offenders," as the panel phrased it.
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Why didn't she use the money from the bridge?

Revmitchell · Sep 19, 2008

LeBuick said:

Yes, did you read what you quoted?

Why didn't she use the money from the bridge?
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I don't know armchair Governor why don't you tells us?

LeBuick · Sep 19, 2008

Whowillgo said:

Sir, why would you post a thread title such as this only to post a partial article? Knowledge can be very dangerous without the wisdom to investigate before accepting. Please take the time to think how this looks for a professed believer to act in this manner.
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I didn't think you could take the entire article, but since you asked...

Evangelicals and social conservatives have embraced McCain's vice presidential pick for what they call her "pro-family," "pro-woman" values. But in Alaska, critics say Gov. Sarah Palin has not addressed the rampant sexual abuse, rape, domestic violence and murder that make her state one of the most dangerous places in the country for women and children.

Alaska leads the nation in reported forcible rapes per capita, according to the FBI, with a rate two and a half times the national average – a ranking it has held for many years. Children are no safer: Public safety experts believe that the prevalence of rape and sexual assault of minors in Alaska makes the state's record one of the worst in the U.S. And while solid statistics on domestic violence are hard to come by, most – including Gov. Palin – agree it is an "epidemic."

Despite the governor's pro-family image, public safety experts and advocates for women and children struggled when asked to explain how Palin's leadership has helped address the crisis. And current and former officials from Palin's administration confirmed that an ambitious plan to tackle the crisis has apparently sunk into doldrums after arriving at the governor's office.

"She's really done a lot of work on oil and gas, but when it comes to violence against women and children. . . we haven't been on her radar as a priority," said Peggy Brown, executive director of the Alaska Network on Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault. The Juneau-based group is an umbrella organization for shelters and anti-violence programs around the state.

State troopers respond to most domestic violence calls outside of Alaska's major cities, but they're too short-staffed and under-funded to do it well, according to Robert Claus, a recently retired trooper.

"The training says you always respond to domestic violence with two people, [but] for most of my career that hasn't been possible," said Claus, who lives on the remote island he patrolled for 15 years. "So how do you go down the list and do what you're supposed to do – separate the people, transport one person while taking care of the kids and victim? You have to pick and choose. We haven't seen the money to do that."

In an interview Wed. arranged by the McCain-Palin campaign, former Palin aide Meg Stapleton defended her old boss' record. "One of the governor's number one priorities since taking office has always been to tackle domestic violence in the state of Alaska," said Stapleton.

Several victims' advocates noted that Palin did agree to a two percent increase in funding for victim assistance this year. But a March study by a state task force found that level of funding only covered the cost of helping women and children hurt by the epidemic of sexual violence. It was not enough to try to prevent assaults from happening – or to ensure "accountability of offenders," as the panel phrased it.

In a press release Thurs., the director of an Anchorage women's shelter defended Palin's leadership on the issue. In addition to approving the funding increase, Gov. Palin boosted anti-violence efforts by "publicly speaking out against domestic violence," noted Judy Cordell, director of Abused Women's Aid in Crisis (AWAIC). The state legislature also passed a tough anti-strangulation law while Palin has been in office, Cordell said.

Some members of Palin's administration were focused on the issue of sexual violence. Officials in the Department of Public Safety were devising an ambitious, multi-million-dollar initiative to seriously tackle sex crimes in the state, but Palin's office put the plan on hold in July.

Days later, Palin fired its chief proponent, Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan, after he declined to dismiss a state trooper Palin accused of threatening her own family members. Palin has said she fired Monegan because she wanted to move his department in a "new direction," and he was not being "a team player on budgeting issues." The dismissal is now at the center of a hotly-contested investigation by the state legislature.

The status of the plan, which would have "fast-tracked" sex crime cases via a dedicated group that included specially-trained investigators, judges and prosecutors, is unknown. "I'd ask the governor," said one official with knowledge of the plan. Numerous inquiries to Palin's campaign spokeswoman went unreturned.

Coincidentally, Palin had praised Monegan -- and specifically his work on domestic violence -- just months before she fired him.

"An indication of our commitment is the participation here of my, our, department of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan's participation here and all of his hard work, and I want to publicly thank him," Palin said in remarks at an April 28 conference on domestic violence. "I want to publicly thank Walt for having his heart in the right place and his efforts too."
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With Christians like this Satan can go on vacation...

LeBuick · Sep 19, 2008

Revmitchell said:

I don't know armchair Governor why don't you tells us?
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Because protecting the women and children of her state wasn't high on her list of priorities. That be my guess..

Revmitchell · Sep 19, 2008

LeBuick said:

Because protecting the women and children of her state wasn't high on her list of priorities. That be my guess..
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Do you really believe that? Armchair Governor

LeBuick · Sep 19, 2008

Revmitchell said:

Do you really believe that? Armchair Governor
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No, but the stories (both of them) supports the accusations.

I didn't see this same level of contempt for the Obama wanted the market to crash thread. Do you really believe that?

Revmitchell · Sep 19, 2008

LeBuick said:

No, but the stories (both of them) supports the accusations.

I didn't see this same level of contempt for the Obama wanted the market to crash thread. Do you really believe that?
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Yes. The reason is it will be an excuse to move toward further government control which he believes will be better.

rbell · Sep 20, 2008

LeBuick said:

Because protecting the women and children of her state wasn't high on her list of priorities. That be my guess..
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Oh well, it appears slander is your intent.

Sad.

I hope I'm wrong.

It also appears your justification for making such terrible accusations against Palin is, "well, others have done so against Obama."

Two wrongs don't make a right.

LeBuick · Sep 20, 2008

rbell said:

Oh well, it appears slander is your intent.

Sad.

I hope I'm wrong.

It also appears your justification for making such terrible accusations against Palin is, "well, others have done so against Obama."

Two wrongs don't make a right.
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No, what I posted about Palin were facts that hurt. They not only hurt you as one of her supporters, they hurt me as a Christian and one who has compassion for my fellowman.

It is a fact that Alaska has the highest forced rape per capita.
It is a fact they have the highest s@xual child @buse per capita.
It is a fact this is one of the cuts she made in her budget.
It is a fact the Public Safety Commissioner was begging her for financial support to combat this crises.
It is a fact that Public Safety Commissioner, Walt Monegan wanted to go to Washington to ask for money to fight this problem.

IT IS A FACT PALIN WAS AGAINST HIM GOING.

Now you can make of those facts what you want but the truth is she had a chance as Governor to put a focus and increase protection for the women and children of Alaska and she turned a blind eye.

Now if you guys can say we endorse murder by voting for a pro-choice candidate then certainly my statement is fair. This was not my attempt to make a right, it's my way of saying if we're going to focus on the negative, let's not overlook anyone's negatives.

LeBuick · Sep 20, 2008

Revmitchell said:

Yes. The reason is it will be an excuse to move toward further government control which he believes will be better.
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So your saying Obama is rejoicing and hoped for American's to suffer great loss so he can implement further government control. how is this different from me saying Palin wouldn't protect the women and Children in Alaska but not putting funds toward their defense?

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, no matter how you twist it, it's a duck.

Revmitchell · Sep 20, 2008

LeBuick said:

So your saying Obama is rejoicing and hoped for American's to suffer great loss so he can implement further government control. how is this different from me saying Palin wouldn't protect the women and Children in Alaska but not putting funds toward their defense?

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, no matter how you twist it, it's a duck.
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Whatever make your conscience comfortable.

Bro. Curtis · Sep 20, 2008

LeBuick said:

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, no matter how you twist it, it's a duck.
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First you make fun of McCain's arms. Now you admit to torturing ducks ?

LeBuick · Sep 20, 2008

Bro. Curtis said:

First you make fun of McCain's arms. Now you admit to torturing ducks ?
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Now that was fuuuny....

And for the record, I didn't make fun of his arms, I made fun of his excuse for not using a computer.

Revmitchell · Sep 20, 2008

Using a computer is not all that important. And I doubt you can judge just how painful it is for him to sit and use a keyboard for any length of time.

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