Parable of the Virgins.

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  1. weeping prophet

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    In Matthew 25:1-13 What lessons does Jesus wish for His disciples to learn. I'm looking for insights into this parable. I appreciate any given.
     
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    This little light of mine
    I'm gonna let it shine
    This little light of mine
    I'm gonna let it shine
    Let it shine
    Let it shine
    Let it shine

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    HankD
     
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    Watch and be prepared.
     
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    Hank, wise one! Jesus meant for the disciples to be ready for His coming, by having their lamps lit. So we would believe... the virgins that Jesus refers to, in the parable, are members of the Body. The light of the lamp is the gospel truth. So what is the "oil"? in Christ, WP
     
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    Exactly! Now how does the parable teach us to be prepared, (in what ways.). blessing WP
     
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    Exactly! Now how does the parable teach us to be prepared, (in what ways.). blessing WP
     
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    1 Thessalonians 5
    15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.
    16 Rejoice evermore.
    17 Pray without ceasing.
    18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
    19 Quench not the Spirit.
    20 Despise not prophesyings.
    21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
    22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.
    23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    [ October 16, 2002, 01:25 PM: Message edited by: HankD ]
     
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    Hank, the Spirit, totally agreed. Now is there any other message here, that Jesus seeks to teach, besides letting our light shine by the Spirit. We have dealt with the Virgins now what about the Bridegroom, what does it teach about Him? Thank you, you are helping me prepare for a sermon, WP
     
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    Luke 21:
    29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees;
    30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.
    31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.
    32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
    33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
    34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
    35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
    36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
    37 And in the day time he was teaching in the temple; and at night he went out, and abode in the mount that is called the mount of Olives.
    38 And all the people came early in the morning to him in the temple, for to hear him.
     
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    Hank, thanks for the passage in Luke. I will use it as a referance. One other question, why was the bridegroom delayed and what is the significance of when He came. Mat.25:5-6
    P.S. If you post your mind I won't take it as the Word of God. Blessings, WP
     
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    The Virgins in This Parable Represent The Priests of The Old Testament.
    The Door Was The Veil Of The Sanctuary.
    Inside Is Where The Priests Fellowshiped With Each Other and The Lord

    The Foolish Virgins were unprepared..They Were Defiled and had Blemishes and were unclean..and were unable To Enter into The Sanctuary.
    They Couldnt Enter Through The Veil when They Were Beckoned...understand

    Jesus Describes A Temple Made With Hands in The OT. The NT Is The Same But We Enter A Temple Made Without Hands. And We Are The Virgins...Wise and Foolish. the Rules of The Sanctuary Still Apply...Disobedience...Defilement and Blemishes (Sin), Disallow Us To Enter Into Fellowship "In The Spirit" With Our Fellow Christians..

    This Parable Was Not an end Of The World Sign or Analogy either..Its Everyday Instruction..

    At Least Thats My Opinion....
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    The Virgins in This Parable Represent The Priests of The Old Testament.
    The Door Was The Veil Of The Sanctuary.
    Inside Is Where The Priests Fellowshiped With Each Other and The Lord

    The Foolish Virgins were unprepared..They Were Defiled and had Blemishes and were unclean..and were unable To Enter into The Sanctuary.
    They Couldnt Enter Through The Veil when They Were Beckoned...understand

    Jesus Describes A Temple Made With Hands in The OT. The NT Is The Same But We Enter A Temple Made Without Hands. And We Are The Virgins...Wise and Foolish. the Rules of The Sanctuary Still Apply...Disobedience...Defilement and Blemishes (Sin), Disallow Us To Enter Into Fellowship "In The Spirit" With Our Fellow Christians..

    This Parable Was Not an end Of The World Sign or Analogy either..Its Everyday Instruction..

    At Least Thats My Opinion....
    Me2
     
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    The delay… IMO The following verses might apply:

    As a test for both the world and the Church…

    Ecclesiastes 8:11 Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.

    Genesis 15: (see the context).
    16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.

    Luke 12:
    45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;
    46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

    Grace abounds…
    9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
    10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
    11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
    12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
    13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
    14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

    At midnight…
    Mark 13:36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.

    Matthew 26:36-45.
     
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    I'm one of those nutsy rapture people, and this parable is one of the reasons why. We are watching for the return of the Bridegroom for the bride.

    The Jewish groom came at night for the bride. So those who waited for him would wait with lamps to "show the way". Now we know Jesus does not need to be shown the way, but every parable can only go so far!

    Oil is often used as a symbol of the Holy Spirit in the Bible.

    So here is a possible series of ideas relating to this parable. PLEASE note I said 'ideas'!

    It is night when the bridegroom comes.
    The light of the truth of the Bible does seem to be going out across the world in favor of ecumenism, liberality, and/or legalism in the churches and increasing apostacy and atheism outside of them.

    Many claim to be Christian. Not everyone who makes the claim is.

    Those who are born again have the Holy Spirit within. They have the oil.

    Those who are not born again are bankrupt of the oil.

    The lesson? Be right with God (be born again in Him), then, while you are being used by Him in your life on this earth and maturing spiritually in the process, keep your heart looking up -- watching and waiting.
     
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    Thank you for your opinion Me2. I would agree that it is everyday instruction,to the disciple of Christ. Jesus, in this context, is talking to His disciples about the questions they asked of Him in chapter24:3. One of those questions was about the sign of His coming. I believe this is what Jesus is refering to when gives this parable. Jesus does address the question with practical information on how to live until His return. We have to interpret each scripture, in the light of the whole, and especially when dealing with a parable. You say,"the rules of the sanctuary still apply.", I would agree that one must be made righteous to enter through the door but that righteousness can only come from faith in Jesus Christ, not by following the rules of the sanctuary, so when we have believed with our heart in Jesus then we are without blemish in the sight of God. If you agree with that, then the parable takes on new significance. The virgins without the oil - members of the church without faith in Christ, without His Spirit. Virgins with lamp and oil - members of the Body with faith in Christ, with the Spirit.
    Jesus returns, those that believe on Him from their heart, which is shown by the lamps light, let in, door shut, bride gets married. Blessings, WP Galatians3:7-9, Hebrews6:13-20 esp.verse 19
     
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    I was wondering how long it would be before a woman would post, you guys just can't stay away from marriges, I know my wife makes me go to everyone she can! Anyway, thanks for your help, will take note!
     
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    Hank, Thanks brother, your post have been extremely helpful. God bless, WP
     
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    Helen,

    I agree with much that you said, except the above. If the oil represents the Holy Spirit, then, even the five foolish virgins are representatives of (rather than individuals) I would say churches, the oil being in the lamp shows possession of the spirit, the flame going out shows they were low on the Spirit, but not going out.

    I know some who believe all ten of these to represent "bridesmaids" rather than the bride. I have not studied it out that far as of yet, so I refrained from answering since the brother specified his working on a sermon topic, I did not want to provide any undue influence, though I don't think I would have.

    In keeping with the analogy of your picture of the Jewish marriage, from my studies,I believe the marriage supper, or reception was also held in the bridegroom's father's house.

    I also believe the use of midnight would refer to a "late" hour; when guests are not expected to visit, not necessarily night; though you may have meant the same as my statement, being in the "night" of time.

    This scripture is much deeper than I have been able to glean from it so far. It is a beautiful study, however, and I am drawn to it often.

    I have also found the reference that the bridegroom is returning from His father's house as the virgins would go out to meet him; This would imply the bride is with her beloved; and would show the thought toward the bridesmaids.

    A wonderful study I am involved in now may be parallel:

    http://www.ohr.org.il/judaism/articles/wedding/htm

    The above url I believe will reference to The Jewish Wedding Ceremony.

    God Bless you in your walk and service to Him.

    Bro. Dallas
     
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    Heres A Sidebar...

    In The Temple Of solomon There Is Inside The Inner Sanctuary

    10 Lampstands with 7 Candles On Each with Their own Individual Containers Of Oil

    5 on One Side...5 on The Other

    Priest Were To Keep The Oil Filled and The Lamp Wicks Trimmed

    Priest are Called Virgins To The Lord (Rev 14:4)

    Only Qualified Priests Could Be Used In This Service. With No one Containing Spots or Blemishes.

    The Veil to the inner Santuary is Called The Door, or The Gate (Mat 7:14) and only Qualified Priest Could Enter.

    And Rules Of The Temple..Love God, Love Man


    Who In Their Right Mind Has 10 Virgins Waiting To Be Eloped?

    and would Leave 5 ?...

    (oh well..Its Just A Parable)

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    I agree with you, Dallas. Am revising my 'ideas' :D

    Thank you very much.

    Me2 -- you crack me up. I really do appreciate your approach as well as your willingness to note where it seems to fall down.

    Thinking on the things of the Lord is not a bad way to spend some time, eh?
     

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