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Paris Burning: PC Media Blackout?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, Nov 2, 2005.

  1. Matt Black

    Matt Black Well-Known Member
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    I think that they - and you - can relax.

    A couple of years ago I watched French firemen rioting in Paris. They were fighting the police hand-to-hand, with sticks, and with anything they could pull off nearby buildings. And using their firehoses as water cannon against the police. The the police got out A Serious Water Cannon. No girly weapon, that.

    I'm not entirely sure what they were protesting about, perhaps they were on strike. It was extraordinary to watch, especially when you compare it to here, where firemen are reasonably cuddly and even in the most interesting strikes all you get are three blokes standing around a brazier looking uncomfortable.

    I'm marginally more understanding of the US reaction today, having heard a bunch of examples of US reporting of the riots on the radio this morning. It was pretty hysterical and over-stated. And focused without exception on the supposed religion of the rioters. They were uniformly referred to as 'young Muslims' or 'French Muslims'. Rather than presenting the violence in the context of French history, or even its similarities to Britain in the '80s, it sounded far more like religious insurrection.

    Unless you're stupid enough to wander into a banlieu when the rioting is actually happening or do/ say something offensive whilst in the banlieu, you'll be OK. It's rather like Northern Ireland: the first time I went there I was nervous. But I quickly discovered that 99% of the people are quite nice and that, unless you wander into somewhere like Derry's Bogside district during a riot or wear an orange sash and shout "God hates Taigs and the IRA are a bunch of wee girls" there, you'll be fine.
     
  2. poncho

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    Not surprising, the neocons are having trouble here. A religious insurection slant from the media gives them some measure of credibility to the public.
     
  3. carpro

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    True enough, but you must also realize that witnesses to the same thing frequently see something different.

    Being there may make someone more of an authority on some things , but less of an objective observer on others.

    Instead of repeating the question "Have you been there?", you should consider using your truthful statement that you have been there and thus avoid the appearance that you think anyone that hasn't been there should not speak on the subject.
     
  4. Melanie

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    Having had the experience of a close friend reported by the local media in all of its glamourous innaccuracy, delete 99% of a report as a gross misrepresention of facts, coloured in with fantasy and there maybe a little truth somewhere hidden.
     
  5. mioque

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    The rioting started to die down last thursday night because the French national team played vs. Costa Rica on that night.

    I'm no expert on Islamic insurrections but somehow I don't think that would have happened if it had been the start of an Islam inspired civil war in France.
     
  6. mioque

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    Zidane and his Froggies won 3-2 by the way.
     
  7. poncho

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    They gotta paint the picture of Islamic terrorists and insurectionists behind every door to make their bogus war on terror look believable and keep the sheople scared and compliant so they can ram through more of their global police state agenda.
     
  8. bb_baptist

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    Riot erupts in French city centre
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4430540.stm

    Date - Cars burned
    October 27 - 23
    October 28 - 29
    October 29 - 20
    October 30 - 8
    October 31 - 13
    November 1 - 69
    November 2 - 40
    November 3 - 150
    November 4 - 900
    November 5 - 1300
    November 6 - 1408
    November 7 - 1,173
    November 8 - 617
    November 9 - 482
    November 10 - 463
    November 11 - 502
     
  9. carpro

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    Riots in America tend to race based and they tend to destroy first the property of their own race. That's after they steal everything that's not nailed down.

    Quite a difference.
     
  10. Bunyon

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    Riot erupts in French city centre
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4430540.stm

    Date - Cars burned
    October 27 - 23
    October 28 - 29
    October 29 - 20
    October 30 - 8
    October 31 - 13
    November 1 - 69
    November 2 - 40
    November 3 - 150
    November 4 - 900
    November 5 - 1300
    November 6 - 1408
    November 7 - 1,173
    November 8 - 617
    November 9 - 482
    November 10 - 463
    November 11 - 502


    No not the beginning of an religious war, just the beginning of a jihad against cars and those who drive them. I wish they would just kill flies and misquitos instead.
     
  11. Ed Edwards

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    That is about 1.5$ Billion worth of cars
    that need to be replaced. By contrast
    the GNP (Gross National Product) of
    French Guiana is 1$ Billion
     
  12. Bunyon

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    So that is the point. Why would forigen nationals come to a country and enjoy such a lavish welfare state and then demand that within one genereation they should be Just as well established as the decendants of Louie the 16 are. They should just be glad that they got gov housing, gov food stamps, gov med care, gov everything!
     
  13. Bunyon

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  15. LadyEagle

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    Just because some of the mobs were shouting "allahu akbar" doesn't mean it's connected with islam in any way. :rolleyes:
     
  16. Bunyon

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    LE, don't you know it is always economics? In other words, it is always the other guys fault.
     
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    :rolleyes:

    I say again..... :rolleyes:
     
  19. Bunyon

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  20. LadyEagle

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    Started a thread on the Jordanian bombings since it is off topic of this thread:

    H.E.R.E.
     
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