I am forsaking Wink the Baptist Board, at least for a while (don't all cheer at once!). I departed once before for two years because the threads were getting too aggressive, but things seemed to have got better on my return. At the present time, however, I'm having to scroll down page after page of invective and accusation in order to find something worth commenting on. I am all for rigorous debate, but the mods need to keep much better order than they do at present. Here are some suggestions. 1. No one should be allowed to call someone else a liar. Anyone doing so should be cautioned, then suspended for a time, and if he persists, banned. In the British Parliament (I expect it's the same in the Senate and Congress), everyone is called 'The honourable gentleman/lady' and when they lie they are told that they are 'not correct' or 'not being factual' or making 'a terminological inexactitude' (yes, really!). That is what should happen here. If someone is lying egregiously, the post should be reported and the Mods should take action. 2. The Admin should draw up a list of heretical doctrines and ban anyone from promoting them.. Then, no one should be allowed to use the term 'borderline heresy,' even if he thinks it applies. Think of a friendlier term to use. 'Incorrect' works for me; it's just a little bit nicer than 'wrong.' If someone does post something heretical, report the post. 3. Threads should be closed much more quickly when they degenerate into name-calling and offensive posts deleted. 4. I don't think it is wise for moderators to be involved in heated debate. The other mods may be intimidated from calling them to order. 5. I suggested earlier that the negative ratings should be dropped. I still think so, with the possible exception of the 'disagree' rating. Even then, it should be a requirement for the one who disagrees to state the area of disagreement. It really isn't conducive to a friendly atmosphere for people to be posting 'dumb' and 'dislike' on almost every post some people make. As I said before, it's a form of bullying. I believe this board can be a great force for good, but at the present time I wouldn't advise anyone from my church to join. The atmosphere is sometimes definitely un-Christian. Brothers, these things ought not to be. Finally, members may feel that I have fallen short of the standards that I am proposing. If that is the case, I can only ask for their forgiveness.