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Pastor endorses McCain from pulpit

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by dragonfly, Sep 28, 2008.

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  1. dragonfly

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    #1 dragonfly, Sep 28, 2008
  2. Salty

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    I think a man has the right to freedom of speech.

    Now if the congregation does not like him, they can always vote him out.

    Salty

    PS and before you say, "but its against the law" in the early 1800's it also was against the law in Georgia to free your slaves- therefore the law is not always right.
     
    #2 Salty, Sep 28, 2008
  3. KenH

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    1. As long as this church is not tax-exempt I have no problem with it legally.

    2. Personally, I don't want a church where I am a member to be preaching partisan politics from the pulpit - legal or not.
     
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  4. givengrace

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    I say good for HIM!!! While my pastor hasn't come out and indorsed a candidate I know where he stands. But it could be from a bumper sticker or magnet on his car is that going to loose my church the tax exempt status?
    I do know that we pray EVERY week at church and Myself EVERY day at home that the Holy Spirit speak to ALL CHRISTIANS and touch there hearts in a way to VOTE for what truly means more to them to be a follower of CHRIST or a follower of MAN and VOTE their CONVICTIONS that are GOD breathed.
     
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  5. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    I, too, pray that God will guide me to vote as He would have me to vote or not to vote.

    Every Christian should, in my opinion.
     
    #5 KenH, Sep 28, 2008
  6. dragonfly

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    I have mixed feeling concerning this issue. If the church agreed to abide by the 401C3 law, then they should do so. At the same time, I don't think the government should tell preachers what to preach. Maybe one answer is to not be tax-exempt in the first place and let the chips fall where they may.
     
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  7. KenH

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    If the pastor in the church where I am a member endorsed a political candidate from the pulpit, even if it was a candidate I support, I would seriously consider leaving that church.
     
    #7 KenH, Sep 28, 2008
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    I agree. This is not a pastor's job. He would make those who disagree feel angry, abandoned or left out. A pastor needs to be sensitive to all the people in the church. He is to teach the word of God, preach the gospel, shepherd, exhort, counsel, not politicize.

    I would be very uncomfortable with this. I know my pastor would never do this, so I'm grateful for that.
     
    #8 Marcia, Sep 28, 2008
  9. tinytim

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    Many Pastors did it this Sunday... they are trying to force a lawsuit in order to get this issue settled in court... I was reading a news report last night.

    I have mixed feelings as well..
    Although, we are a small church... I still will not endorse any candidate..
    Although If I were a betting man 100% of my congregation is voting for McCain.
     
    #9 tinytim, Sep 28, 2008
  10. ajg1959

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    Ok, what about a pastor that preaches in issues, such as abortion and homosexuality? Doesnt mention a candidate, only the issues. Many want to outlaw preaching on issues, but I believe it is the duty of the pastor to preach moral issues, and the biblical teaching on them, including ones that are politically polarizing.

    What do you say?

    AJ
     
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  11. KenH

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    On moral issues, I have no problem with a preacher preaching about such. It is the endorsement of particular political candidates or particular political parties that I have a problem with.
     
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    100% agreed. I have been criticized before for being "partisan" because I am pro life or anti-lottery or whatever. But I have never and will never 'endorse' a candidate or a party from the pulpit.
     
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    I was just about to make the point you just made. If you teach the Bible, and the Bible disagrees with a party's platform, then folks will say you are partisan, and some will try to stop you from teaching it.

    If the Bible comdemns certain moral issues, it should be preached as such regardless of whose party it offends.

    AJ
     
    #13 ajg1959, Sep 28, 2008
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    Right On Brother!

    I couldn't agree more.....AMEN!
     
    #14 righteousdude2, Sep 28, 2008
  15. KenH

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    Such people as that who think that preaching on moral issues is partisan are, imo, entertwining important stuff that matters for eternity like the Bible with unimportant, temporal stuff like political candidates and political parties.
     
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    Big AMEN to that Ken
    Campaigning in the church has to be the lowest of all priorities. If a congregation is taught the Holy Word and seek guidence from God,what else do you need. Believe it or not Pastor's can be wrong in their choice of candidates. But if they don't mind losing a tax exempt status then campaign away. But I feel it is wrong , wrong, wrong.
     
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    I have preached against abortion, homosexuality, greed, corruption, etc...

    And when I preached against abortion the democrats got mad.

    I wonder why.
     
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  18. LeBuick

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    I have no problem with this.

    The Church is a pillar in the community and belongs to God and the Members. If it benefits the members from a spiritual or social aspect I will tell if from the pulpit.

    I don't (or haven't) endorse candidates but I also don't hesitate to discuss issues that pertain to the text I am preaching. I believe in relating the scripture to today so it is usable to the membership. I don't believe in going the other way around, where you come with an issue and take a text just to validate your political speech.
     
    #18 LeBuick, Sep 28, 2008
  19. KenH

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    You have Democrats in your congregation? :)
     
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  20. LeBuick

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    Now we need a meeting. Rev done said that word again... :laugh:
     
    #20 LeBuick, Sep 28, 2008
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