Pastor Jeffres on O'Reilly

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  1. SolaSaint

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    Did anyone see Pastor Jeffres and the Catholic Father on O'Reilly the other night when they were promoting Bill's new book "Killing Jesus"? I don't have a link, but I thought Jeffres gave too much a positive review of a book by a man who doesn't understand why Jesus died. Why do prominent Pastors go on TV and cave into liberals when it comes to our faith?
     
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    Vanity maybe? Who doesn't want to be a star these days?
     
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    O'Reilly's book is a mockery on the level of other texts. The amount of mistakes and simple mis-statements due to ignorance are overwhelming. No sensible Pastor should be endorsing the book.

    As for Jeffress, well he's looking for a spotlight and Bill is willing to give it to him.
     
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    That is quite an indictment. Not sure how you have determined his motives.
     
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    I don't know his motives but it sure didn't look well with him endorsing this book by O'Reilly. Osteen faired better this week when standing up for God's word on Piers Morgan.
     
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    Sorry I did not watch the clip. Didn't O'Reilly recently admit to being gay? Why would any Christian leader allow him or herself to be interviewed by a pervert?

    I would think reruns of the Gong Show or Mr. Ed would have more substance and be a better use of time.
     
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    You are correct that Osteen did a better job on gay marriage than Bill O'Reilly, who said this recently in a widely quoted statement:

    I don't know if O'Reilly is gay or not but I know that he does not follow Catholic doctrine on this point. So we know that he has a liberal theology and it is puzzling as to why Jeffres goes on tv with him.

    O'Reilly's next book will be called "Killing Time."
     
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    No, I was comparing Jeffres with Osteen.
     
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    I am sorry that I did not express myself more clearly. Thanks for pointing out my error! I wanted to imply that Dr. Robert Jeffress allows Bill O'Reilly to express liberal theology that even Osteen disavows. For the record, Bill O'Reilly also defended his use of the intended insult of "Bible thumper." Do you know anything about Jeffress' theology--I have only seem him once or twice. I think that he is SBC.
     
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    You're kidding, right?
     
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    how did Osteen stand up to O'Reilly ? what were his words ?
     
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    I mean, what did Osteen say to Piers Morgan ?
    my bad.
     
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    :laugh::laugh::laugh:

    Why do liberals want to write books on theology?
     
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    You're calling Bill O'Reilly of Fox News a liberal??
     
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    He is a religious leftist if he advocates same-sex marriage, and he does, and refers to the proponents of one-man, one-woman marriage as "Bible thumpers" and defends his use of the term, and he does. O'Reilly is a Roman Catholic but not a very conservative one. He is no Cardinal Dolan. So I am calling him a liberal in regards to his book on theology and on his theology. As you know, a religious liberal is a term that is a hundred years old and it means someone who is neo-orthodox or worse.
     
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    You don't know what you're talking about!


    That's not supporting gay marriage, that's supporting state's rights. Figure out the difference!

    It's an important one. DOMA was doomed from the start, and it is somewhat miraculous it didn't get overturned before the last court session. It was a blow to state's rights, and in the end, that is all that is going to preserve common sense, is letting each state make its own decisions. Conservatives who want to legislate at the national level against abortion, gay marriage, and other moral issues are taking those issues out of the best weapons we have, the individual states, which are far more likely to preserve morality than the federal government ever will.


    Distasteful as those statements may be, they are essentially correct. It is difficult to allow heterosexual singles to provide medical coverage, for example, for their significant others while denying them to "gay" couples. Civil unions are not marriages, and we don't even need legislation to allow them. The couple need simply draw up a contract, and there you have it.

    Saying O'Reilly "supports gay marriage" is asinine.

    , and refers to the proponents of one-man, one-woman marriage as "Bible thumpers" and defends his use of the term, and he does. O'Reilly is a Roman Catholic but not a very conservative one. He is no Cardinal Dolan. So I am calling him a liberal in regards to his book on theology and on his theology. As you know, a religious liberal is a term that is a hundred years old and it means someone who is neo-orthodox or worse.[/QUOTE]
     
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    Call all the names that you want but Bill O'Reilly essentially defaults to allow same-sex marriage, against the doctrine of the Catholic Church. Therefore he is a religious liberal and his book is intended to make money. O'Reilly says that conservatives should not base public policy on religion--that's nutty--where does he think that the laws against murder come from, for example? O'Reilly is not in agreement with his own Roman Catholic Church.
     
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    No, that's nutty. You're equating the view of many Christians that the states should decide issues of morality, not the federal government, with "liberalism" which is utterly absurd.
     
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    I originally called Bill a liberal, and it was because of his liberal theology, not his political stance.
     
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    And I agree with you 100% that O'Reilly is a religious liberal. I also consider him a non-conservative of some type politically. I prefer Lou Dobbs, who has a dry wit and keeps his show moving along and discusses economic matters more than the others. I notice that Hannity is being moved to a later hour.

    On the subject of SBC Pastor Robert Jeffress of Dallas and his appearances on O'Reilly, I do not think that he disagrees with O'Reilly on anything when he is there but I think that the conversations have been just generalities. O'Reilly has little use for evangelicals and fundamentalists. I always thought that "Bible thumper" when used by Long Island rich like O'Reilly was derisive but O'Reilly insists that it is a neutral term. O'Reilly is just too New Yorkie for me I guess.
     
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