Pastor Talks About Why He's Burning the Koran on the 9/11 Anniversary

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    Pastor Talks About Why He's Burning the Koran on the 9/11 Anniversary

    Read it yourself carefully and dare to be unpopular with your politically correct friends!

    Excerpts by Pastor Jones:

    "... And what we are doing, you actually find in the Bible. In Acts 19:19. As the people converted to Christianity, they brought books, books of magic they brought books that they felt were damaging, dangerous and they burnt those books. ..."

    "... We are burning one book for one particular reason to warn radical Islam. We see all around the world right now with Afghanistan, with the other places, we see how dangerous and how radical this element can be. They are even calling for the death of the president. And I think we think that it is time to stand up. Its time for America to stand up and say no. ..."

    "... And to a certain extent i think in Christianity that is the problem. We've lost our guts, the church has become weak. The church has become afraid, the church is hiding behind their walls they no longer stand up on issues. We've had several times pastors come here saying we are in agreement with you, what you are doing is right, or anyway the message that you are wanting to send is right. But we can't say anything. If we do we will lose our congregation. We have people who work for large companies have stopped out front and said we are in agreement with you but if we say anything we will be fired. That is in a country where we supposedly have free speech. ..."

    "... If they have a problem with the burning of the Koran that's fine. I realize the actual burning of the Koran is a radical statement we feel very convinced about it, we plan on doing it, we feel its very necessary. But if Christians were to say that's too much for us or just normal people, they say the actual burning of the Koran is too much for us, that's fine. I can absolutely understand that. That is no problem. But they should, all Christians should agree with our message. Our message is that radical Islam is dangerous, let's keep an eye on it, let's say no to it. and from a Christian stand point they have to agree with us. Because according to Christianity, Jesus Christ is the only way. And the Koran does not recognize the resurrection, the virgin birth, that Jesus died for our sins, that he's the son of god, that he's god,. So from the Christian standpoint they must agree with us. ..."

    "... if we don't do it when do we stop backing down. when do we stop giving in to Islam, or radical Islam, when they burn flag, when they kill Christians, when they burn churches, when they threaten to kill the president of the United States. if we back down now fine but how much can we back down until we actually stand up and say enough is enough. Actually I think instead of sending a message to us, that they should send a message to them. and Say look, no matter what that church does, they have freedom of speech, they have freedom of religion, that is America, no matter what that church does right or wrong, in your eyes, in my eyes no matter what that church does, if you retaliate, then we will retaliate. i believe we need to send a message to them, not try to blame us or send us a message. we need to send a message to radical Islams ..."

    "... I think that [fellow Christians ... responding ... by reading koran at their worship servicesis] an abomination. A Christian church the bible condemns all other so called holybooks and for a Christian church to read the koran, a book that denies Jesus, a book that denies his deity, resurrection from the dead, crucified savior, for us to read that book from pulpits, that, that is absolutely terrible. ..."

    "... it tells me we've lost, that we've lost the battle. Christianity has lost their guts, they're not willing to stand up. Jesus himself said i am the only way, Jesus was not some kind of a liberal hippie that roamed around, roamed around on the earth, Christianity is not open minded. Jesus said i am the only way. And when we do acts like that we have left the bible, those people are not Christians, those men of God do not represent Jesus Christ. the bible is very very clear and with those actions we have completely watered down the gospel. We have tried to make the gospel acceptable to mankind, we have tried to fit the Gospel into our society, make it look attractive, make it look good, that's why we have so much become a better me and we have god wants you to have a better car and a bigger house. there's nothing wrong with prosperity but we have watered down the Gospel. that is not the only Gospel . the Gospel is Jesus Christ is the only way. that is it. he is the risen crucified savour and the church has even lost that. i was shocked as we even preached the gospel just that. Jesus is the only way. people are mad. people are upset. that's just the very basic of Christianity. ..."

    "... We have had over a hundred death threats. Some of them have been very graphic. Saying they will definitely kill us on 9-11. A letter was sent to the local newspaper here, saying that three people on way here, they were armed with automatic weapons and explosives and they were going to blow us up and they were going to burn me alive. we have put ourselves in danger. of course our families in danger. whether people agree with us or not we are convinced this is the right thing to do. We're definitely convinced this message needs to be this strong for this time. ..."

    "... like you said, the city of Gainesville has denied our burn permit. we requested it again, they denied it again, we have consulted a 1st amendment lawyer, he is of the opinion they have violated our first amendment rights, the example he used was the same, the same rights that were violated in the civil rights movement, when Martin Luther King tried to get permit to protest and they denied him. so we will still continue on. as you mentioned, we have met with the FBI, we have met with the police department and on September 11 the FBI and the police will be here. ..."
     
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    I don't know. Acts 19:19 seems to be men denouncing their old evil practices where what Jones is promoting is to send a clear signal to Islam. I do agree with most of what he says, but I feel there's a much better way to witness God's love.
     
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    I agree with a lot of what he says, don't think he's "crazy" as he's been made out to be in the media, and understand he's desire to "make a statement".

    Our church doesn't have plans to do something like this and I don't think it's necessary or even the best way. I don't think there's anything wrong with it - just not the approach I'd take.

    I do think we need to preach against Islam with all our might and without apology. We need to understand, recognize, and proclaim the evil in it.

    I do think we're being intimidated into acceptance of Islam out of fear and in the name of religious tolerance and diversity.
     
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    I didn't have a problem with him burning the Koran. I think the reason the media made such a big issue out of this was for the fact that they are trying to push people into accepting Islam as being a "peaceful" religion. Secondly, most people tend to think of "book burning" as being negative. Most people who know anything about Adolph Hitler will remember that he was known for burning books back then. I think that most people associate burning books with Nazi stuff. Again, I didn't see a problem with what he was going to do. To me, it was nothing more than a demonstration.

    I remember in the 80's there was a big issue with flag burning. The courts passed that. Why are people okay with burning an American flag, but have such hard time burning the Koran?
     
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    In the same light many who opposed the flag burning are in favour of the Koran burning.

    Its really pretty simple - both are legally protected action, but both are purposefully offensive and designed to get a response.

    Both are legal - both are stupid.
     

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