Pastor turned athiest

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  1. Earth Wind and Fire

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    Ooooh, another let's-indict-believers-and-elevate-the-vomitus-of-the-apostate thread.

    We are not commanded to live for unbelievers. We are commanded to live for the believer, specifically, the one who is weak in the faith. Willing to forgo your beer for his sake?
     
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    Why should I?
     
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    Oh, I dunno . . . love?
     
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    I cant love him and have a beer?
     
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    There is a lot of truth in that blog.
     
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    I don't get it. What does the author of the blog see wrong. There is a lot of vagueness there but nothing concrete to get a picture of what he is talking about. Name some specific actions that he is talking about. I have no idea what the op wants or is talking about.
     
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    Thank you for having the eyes to see.
     
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    Forget it....it was just an FYI.
     
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    Why forget it? No one can give some specifics? Why not?
     
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    Because either you get it or you don't....that's why.
     
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    That is baloney. Based on what I have seen so far there is no real complaint to be made. Just someone wanting to tear down Christians and the church. Otherwise specifics could be given.
     
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    Oh really....is that what you think?!?:laugh:
     
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    Ok, you will hate me of course, but this guy was a Calvinist, so that might have made a difference.

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolong...-is-the-man-that-has-his-quiver-full-of-them/

    So, this guy not only converted over to Calvinism, but it also seem he converted to Lordship Salvation with it's extreme stress on performance. This may have had a lot to do with this fellow falling away from Christianity.

    He does indicate in this particular article that he and his wife having many children, believing this was obeying the Lord might have been the first crack in his faith.

    Again, get mad if you want, but there is a big difference between being a Calvinist, and a non-Calvinist. If I had first heard Calvinism preached, I do not believe I would have ever become a Christian.

    That said, and to be fair, this doctrine of having a "quiverfull" of children is not limited to Calvinistic Christians, and I ought to know. I have eight children myself. This seems to be what first started his discouragement with the faith.

    But I could see an extreme stress on Lordship driving any person away.
     
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    If that is what you think lordship is then you do not know what it is.
     
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    I read all four articles of how he left the faith, plus several other articles. I believe he tells us what really caused his shift in beliefs, and that was reading many, many books outside the Bible.

    Interesting articles, and I do respect this fellow for his honesty.
     
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    I know what it means to me in my experience. YOU do not know my experience.
     
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    It isn't love if you're wounding the conscience of a weaker brother. Don't you read the Scriptures?
     
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    Your still on that bs?
     

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