Paul's Relentless "Calvinism" Drove His Evangelical Effort

You are getting closer here. Keep in mind I've never stated he suffered for "calvinism" but obviously he suffered for his zeal to preach the Gospel, for the sake of the elect.

Stating it as you have is putting words in my mouth. I've specifically and only stated he's done so for the elect. Let's not turn it anyway other than what is factually stated? If I wanted to say he did so for "calvinism" I'd had stated it with specificity, no hold-barred. Instead, I stuck to the Scriptural context and wording "the chosen" or "the elect."

OK. I am glad you're feeling better!

Oh no, you don't agree with me? :laugh: You're not getting what I mean here. We can't say all calvinism is non-evangelistic. I equate it (calvinism) with the doctrine of election, as do many people typically assume that speaking of "the elect" makes one automatically a Calvinist and then non-evangelistic. I find it of great interest that Paul preached, suffered, preached, suffered, and on and on, and kept on preaching obviously for the sake of a certain group, i.e. "the chosen, or elect." Not for Calvinism.

I'm aware of this. I don't agree with them.

It's a sensitive issue. It's all in how you state it publicly. One could probably get them to chuckle about it if said correctly, then get them to consider it, the elect, and perhaps enlighten them and lighten them up some.

This is a given. I believe it is unconditional. But this OP isn't about this issue.

It's the same principle: Straw! :thumbsup:

By the way, try as we might, when we accept DoG we can hardly miss the lable of Calvinist. Mention election? "Calvinist." Thus my OP.

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