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Photos link Hillary Clinton to controversial Clinton presidential pardons

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by 2 Timothy2:1-4, Oct 31, 2007.

  1. 2 Timothy2:1-4

    2 Timothy2:1-4 New Member

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    A public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption says it has obtained more than 30 photos taken at the White House in December of 2000 that link Hillary Clinton (D-New York) to some controversial pardons made by her husband the president.


    http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/10/photos_link_hillary_clinton_to.php
     
  2. JamieinNH

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    What is your point or take on this article?

    Jamie
     
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    Proving her a liar once again, in addition to being her usual flip flopping, never give a straight answer to a straight question self in the true Clinton tradition.

    Ahhhh...... the memories...

    I wonder where those whitewater billing records came from:
    Years after they had disappeared from Vince fosters office, subpoenaed Whitewater billing records appeared in the White House. In January of 1996 an aide stumbled across them sitting on a table in the White House. They couldn't have been sitting there all these years unnoticed. Hillary's finger prints were on them.
     
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    I don't know exactly how a photo links someone to decisions made by someone else, but I guess it is possible.

    BTW, a part of this report is quoted, "He says the photos look like "quid pro quo" and they serve to undermine Hillary Clinton's claim that she played no role in the commuted sentences her husband granted the four men."

    Again, I don't see how a photo can reveal that a person "played a role" other than just being in the room.

    Timmy, you're grasping at straws to undermine our next great president of these United States! :laugh:
     
  5. JamieinNH

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    How does this prove anything? One can assume all they want, but it doesn't prove anything.

    A pardon is something any President can do for any reason... isn't that what people were saying when Bush pardoned Libby? Who cares what the reason was behind the pardon, it's the President's right to do with as he pleases.

    As far as Hillary having anythnig to do with it, I am sure she weighted in like any other First Lady and gave her opinion, but it was Bill's power to give, not Hillary.

    You want to blame Hillary for things Bill did, now that's rich! :laugh:

    Also, from the article:
    "The pardons and commuted sentences were subjects of a criminal investigation that failed to produce charges. "

    So they were investigated but found nothing, and now it seems there is something to "uncover"?!?

    It's funny to see you guys with all this Hillary bashing, and yet you get up in arms when it's directed at Bush. :rolleyes:

    Jamie
     
  6. Magnetic Poles

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    Amen! People are called "Bush haters" by this crowd, yet they direct venom at the junior US Senator from NY. Amazing.
     
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    "...they serve to undermine Hillary Clinton's claim that she played no role in the commuted sentences her husband granted the four men.

    If you're going to start now defending every Hillary lie, flip flop, refusal to answer questions, and "smartest woman in the world " memory lapse, you're going to have a long year.

    Enjoy it. I will personally make sure it's not any fun. :thumbs:
     
  8. JamieinNH

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    You go right ahead.. :)

    My point however, is you can't state anything from a picture. Bill was elected and in charge, and as much as you and others would like to "pin" something on Hillary you can't. At least not where this is concern.

    The most you have is speculation or assumptions. If you have proof of anything that was done that was wrong, a lie or criminal, please share with us. But please don't share your opinion, speculation or assumptions unless you state it as such.

    I am voting for Ron Paul. I am not defending Hillary per sec, only looking out for the truth. Truth would be nice from your side for a change.

    Jamie
     
  9. JamieinNH

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    BTW, idle threats don't worry me.. I know and understand fully your skewed one sided thought process. You have shown your true colors many many times on this board.

    Carry on like you've always done, I will ignore you when needed and respond when I wish. :thumbs:

    Jamie
     
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    I truly hope that Sen. Clinton is not the nominee, but I'll tell you what...I'd vote for Bill Clinton if he could run again. At least a horndog is too busy to lead the nation into invading the wrong country!
     
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    This is a great example of the dishonesty of the left. Perhaps M.P. is just making a joke, but the loudest screams to do something about Iraq came from the Clintons, and their co-horts Gore, & co.


    Revisionist history is a poor debating tool.
     
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    You have a strange idea of what you consider a threat.:laugh:
     
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    You've just admitted that you believe she is a liar by agreeing that she did exactly what she said she didn't.

    This is going to be fun! :thumbs:

    Hillary carries a lot of negative baggage.
     
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    Mrs. Clinton is all about revisionist history, as you well know.
     
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    You're streching now.. Do you have any proof or are you just going to assume your way in and out of this thread?

    My comment was clearly this. ALL first ladies have they say, but that never implies or points to her having anything to do with their pardons. Did the First Lady have anything to do with Libby getting pardoned? Do you think they talked about it at all? You're silly to assume that married couples, even in the White House don't talk about "their day".

    Just because there is the possiblity of talk doesn't mean she had anything to do with their pardons.

    Also, remember this is only my opinion, and I wasn't there. However, Hillary has stated she didn't have anything to do with it. Do you have anything to disprove her? If so, present it. If not, stop gossiping about her.

    Watching her win? Are you pulling for her now? :)

    Are you saying she is worse than any other politican? She is no more so than any other politican. Kinda like used car salesman... Sad part is people don't want it to change. They may say they want change, but they really don't. All politicans are corrupt and yet we keep electing them year after year.

    Jamie
     
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    Do you find it unusual that the First Lady should appear in pictures with the President? This is another ridiculous witch hunt. That's obvious from the articloe's statement that Bush didn't want to investigate Clinton. Why not?
     
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    Oh, yes! Far, far worse.

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