Please don't tell me again...

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  1. I Am Blessed 24

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    ...that our nation was not founded on Christian principles.

    Alabama 1901, Preamble We the people of the State of Alabama, Invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following Constitution....

    Alaska 1956, Preamble We, the people of Alaska, Grateful to God and to those who founded our nation and pioneered this great land....

    Arizona 1911, Preamble We, the people of the State of Arizona, Grateful to Almighty God for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution...

    Arkansas 1874, Preamble We, the people of the State of Arkansas, Grateful to Almighty God for the privilege of choosing our own form of government...

    California 1879, Preamble We, the People of the State of California, Grateful to Almighty God for our freedom...

    Colorado 1876, Preamble We, the people of Colorado, With profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of Universe...

    Connecticut 1818, Preamble. The People of Connecticut, acknowledging with gratitude the good Providence of God in permitting them to enjoy....

    Delaware 1897, Preamble Through Divine Goodness all men have, by nature, the rights of worshipping and serving their Creator according to the dictates of their consciences...

    Florida 1885, Preamble We, the people of the State of Florida, grateful to Almighty God for our constitutional liberty, establish this Constitution...

    Georgia 1777, Preamble We, the people of Georgia, Relying upon protection and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish this Constitution...

    Hawaii 1959, Preamble We, the people of Hawaii, Grateful for Divine Guidance ... Establish this Constitution.

    Idaho 1889, Preamble We, the people of the State of Idaho, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings....

    Illinois 1870, Preamble We, the people of the state of Illinois, grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors....

    Indiana 1851, Preamble We, the People of the State of Indiana, grateful to Almighty God for the free exercise of the right to choose our form of government....

    Iowa 1857, Preamble We, the People of the State of Iowa, Grateful to the Supreme Being for the blessings hitherto enjoyed, and feeling our dependence on Him for a continuation of these blessings hitherto enjoyed, and feeling our dependence on Him for a continuance of those blessings...

    Kansas 1859, Preamble We, the people of Kansas, Grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious privileges....

    Kentucky 1891, Preamble. We, the people of the Commonwealth are grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties...

    Louisiana 1921, Preamble We, the people of the State of Louisiana, grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties we enjoy.

    Maine 1820, Preamble We the People of Maine acknowledging with grateful hearts the goodness of the Sovereign Ruler of the Universe in affording us an opportunity. And imploring His aid and direction....

    Maryland 1776, Preamble We, the people of the state of Maryland, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberty...

    Massachusetts 1780, Preamble We...the people of Massachusetts, acknowledging with grateful hearts, the goodness of the Great Legislator of the Universe In the course of His Providence, an opportunity and devoutly imploring His direction.

    Michigan 1908, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Michigan, Grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of freedom....

    Minnesota, 1857, Preamble We, the people of the State of Minnesota, Grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings...

    Mississippi 1890, Preamble We, the people of Mississippi In convention assembled, grateful to Almighty God, and invoking His blessing on our work....

    Missouri 1845, Preamble We, the people of Missouri, With profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, and grateful for His goodness. Establish this Constitution...

    Montana 1889, Preamble. We, the people of Montana, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty.....

    Nebraska 187 5, Preamble We, the people, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom....

    Nevada 1864, Preamble We the people of the State of Nevada, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom...

    New Hampshire 1792, Part I. Art. I. Sec. V Every individual has a natural and unalienable right to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience....

    New Jersey 1844, Preamble We, the people of the state of New Jersey, grateful to Almighty God for civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors....

    New Mexico 1911, Preamble We, the People of New Mexico, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty....

    New York 1846, Preamble We, the people of the State of New York, Grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure its blessings....

    North Carolina 1868, Preamble We the people of the state of North Carolina, grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for our civil, political, and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those...

    North Dakota 1889, Preamble We, the people of North Dakota, Grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, do ordain...

    Ohio 1852, Preamble We the people of the state of Ohio, Grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings and to promote our common...

    Oklahoma 1907, Preamble Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to secure and perpetuate the blessings of liberty....

    Oregon 1857, Bill of Rights, Article I Section 2. All men shall be secure in the Natural right, to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their consciences...

    Pennsylvania 1776, Preamble We, the people of Pennsylvania, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, and humbly invoking His guidance...

    Rhode Island 1842, Preamble. We the People of the state of Rhode Island grateful to Almighty God for the civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing...

    South Carolina, 1778, Preamble We, the people of the State of South Carolina grateful to God for our liberties....

    South Dakota 1889, Preamble We, the people of South Dakota, Grateful to Almighty God for our civil a and religious liberties....

    Tennessee 1796, Art. XI.III. That all men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their conscience...

    Texas 1845, Preamble We the People of the Republic of Texas, acknowledging, with gratitude, the grace and beneficence of God.....

    Utah 1896, Preamble Grateful to Almighty God for life and liberty....

    Vermont 1777, Preamble Whereas all government ought to enable the individuals who compose it to enjoy their natural rights, and other blessings which the Author of Existence has bestowed on man...

    Virginia 1776, Bill of Rights, XVI Religion, or the Duty which we owe our Creator can be directed only by Reason and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian Forbearance, Love and Charity towards each other ....

    Washington 1889, Preamble We the People of the State of Washington, grateful to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe for our liberties...

    West Virginia 1872, Preamble Since through Divine Providence we enjoy the blessings of civil, political and religious liberty, we, the people of West Virginia Reaffirm our faith in and constant reliance upon God ...

    Wisconsin 1848, Preamble We, the people of Wisconsin, Grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, domestic tranquility...

    Wyoming 1890, Preamble We, the people of the State of Wyoming, Grateful to God for our civil, political, and religious liberties.....

    After reviewing acknowledgments of God from all 50 state constitutions, one is faced with the prospect that maybe, the ACLU and the out-of-control federal courts are wrong!

    (Please note that at no time is anyone told that they MUST worship God.)

    'Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants.' - William Penn

    GOD BLESS AMERICA​
     
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    Vague references to God and Providence have nothing to do with true Christianity.

    State constitutions give God, to some extend, a passing reference, but our national constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land, does not.
     
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    Well, He was acknowledged in all 50 states, and that constitutes the nation.

    We can't find 50 states today that even recognize that He is God. :(
     
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    On a similar note, there has been a raging debate about whether or not to include God in any European constitution. If He is included, which is still possible because of Germany's influnece, will that make Europe more Christian than the United States? God does appear in five European national constitutions (interesting article HERE )

    The Irish Constitution is full of references to God - does that mean Ireland was founded as a "Christian" nation?

    Here is its Preamble, for example.

    Which constitution is more Christian?

    Just looking briefly it appears that many nations around the world include God in their constitutions. If we set this as a standard of foundation on Christian principles many nations show the same regard for God as the 50 states, and it appears that several exceed their dependence on Him. Any one of them who mentions God at all exceed the US Constitution.
     
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    It sure sounds like it.

    So, is the problem that you suspect Americans are claiming to be more Christian than their nations of origin?
     
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    Not to be pedantic, but acknowledging God is not the same thing as being a Christian. Lots of people acknowledge God, but do not live on Christian principles. And lots of religions acknowledge God but do not accept Jesus Christ as God.

    Jesus is the dividing line between Christians and non-Christians.
     
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    All true. But I’m trying to figure out under what circumstances, if any, Roger would allow a nation to be called Christian, or founded as a Christian nation.
     
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    Yet law and religion are inseperable. A law is either just or unjust, and it's one's view of God that makes that determination.
     
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    No not really. Even if someone doesn't acknowledge God, a law they make can still be just because it reflects God's order. They may have, through common grace, enacted a right law.
     
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    Why is it necessary to call any nation a Christian nation? Christianity is something that is predicated of someone who believes in Christ for salvation. How can that be true of a nation? And why is it necessary to be a Christian nation?
     
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    My point is that you can't tell anything from constitutions and documents. As "Christan" as the Irish constitution sounds what it established in 1949 was a Catholic pseudo-theocracy in the 1950s. Though there was no "state religion" the Roman Church had a "protected status" which lasted till the early 90s. Everything in Ireland for much of her independent history controlled by Rome.

    Acknowledging God does not make a Christian state.
     
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    I agree with Pastor Larry. Mentioning 'God' does not make one christian, or suggest they based anything on the bible. Many cultures, religions, and countries have used the name 'God'/'god', but it certainly does not make them christian based. If it does we have to accept islam as christian.
    Some of the founders of our country were masons, and anti christian, one of which cut out of his bible all scripture he didn't like, and I don't recall who, maybe someone else does, or has a link.
     
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    I don't disagree with this, but law is the arm of the prevailing belief system of a society. Polygamy vs monogamy for instance.
     
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    That would be the Jefferson Bible
     
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    Benjamin Franklin
    http://www.monticello.org/reports/interests/religion.html

    http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6345884.html?nid=2287

    I'm sure with enough research anyone could find that this country was not founded by christians, as a christian nation. And as we see right now and in past history of this country, this is true, we have never been a christian nation.
     
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    thanks Roger, I did a little more research and found out more about that.
     
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    Jefferson, BTW, considered the Apostle Paul 'the first corrupter of Jesus' teachings'

    Can you imagine the battering this founding father would have received on the BB

    A little info to get you started
     
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    Thanks for the link, I really got tired of sorting through sites looking for more. Actually, I have a headache and just don't fell like looking for more, so I'll take your link.
     
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    Good stuff ,thanks for the reminder! I Am Blessed 18

    The OP tells us in her first sentence in her post that our nation is based on Christian principles.

    May we enjoy the freedoms we have as Christians because their are groups who
    are do all that they can to squeeze any hint of Christian principles in our country.

    Thanks for sharing this with us I Am Blessed 18!
     
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    I think it's impossible to have a "Christian nation."

    I think our nation has a Judeo-Christian heritage and at one time, people generally held to Christian principles but I definitely believe we are now in a post-Christian culture and time.

    Most people will say they believe in God but it is usually not the God of the Bible.
     
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