Police Brutality In New Orleans

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  1. Repent62

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    A New Orleans police officers repeatedly punched a 64 yr old man accused of public intoxication, and another city officer assaulted an AP news producer as a cameraman taped the confrontations.

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/09/taped.beatings.ap/index.html

    Since when do they charge people for public intoxication in New Orleans? :D
     
  2. Daisy

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    At first I thought that was a snide remark, but come to think of it....
     
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    I guess the point is that the man was not intoxicated..............and he is 64!!! For crying out loud, it takes that many officers and punches to take a 64 year old Black man down? Oh, right, he was Black.............

    Cheers,

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    The police in New Orleans have had a long and difficult job over the last 2 months. I sympathize with them. However, that doesn't excuse their action. I won't presume judgement here, and will leave that to a proper investigation, but my layman's view is that the tape does show brutality. The persons involved need to be punished accordingly. I hope that none of the other NOPD officers give in to their frustrations, and I likewise hope no one blames NOPD as a whole for this one incident.
     
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    Yeah...even if he was intoxicated, I doubt that there is even a law on the books down there to cover that charge, I mean get real... that's the only reason people go there in the first place! :rolleyes:
     
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    The incident was wrong. It does not look like he was provoking the officers. But we don't know anything about it, 'cept he was beaten, the officers have been charged, and suspended without pay.

    But this remark of your's, brother Jim, is completely uncalled for.
     
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    Why is it uncalled for? We don't know why this particular elderly inebriate beat up, but racist beatings are not exactly unheard of in this country (or any other).
     
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    My remark was totally in line with what was reported on the National news, and what the victim said in his interview.

    He was not drunk. He is a professional person, a teacher, he is Black and he was beat up. That was the news!

    Cheers,

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    We get different news. We were shown the beating; told he was arrested for public intoxication, menacing and resisting arrest; that the officers had been arrested and that it was not a racial incident (according to the NO captain of police, Defilio). One paper refers to the incident as an "alleged beating" as though it were not captured on tape and viewed by millions.

    I haven't watched the news this morning, so perhaps the coverage has changed by now.
     
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    "But this remark of your's, brother Jim, is completely uncalled for."-------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Jim came here once in the sixties, and so he will never see that things have changed. When I was a police officer, the only time I ever saw a black person roughed up (punched)- he was roughed up by a black officer. I imagine the fact that he was black and the officers were white is just coincidental. But who knows, maybe NO is still the south of Jim's youth -even if they do have a black mayor, black police chief etc etc.

    "what the victim said in his interview."

    You would expect him to admit it on national news if he was provoking the officers?
     
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    Ever lived in the south? I worked in the south for ten years and got tired of what I heard and the practices I saw. Racism still occurs in some churches today in the south.

    In 1995 a friend of mine was a youth pastor in a church and saw it first hand. He led a black youth to Christ and invited the youth to church. The youth came and was told he would not be allowed to enter the building by the deacons. It was an SBC church.

    So much for racism and the conservative resurgence.
     
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    Why is it uncalled for? We don't know why this particular elderly inebriate beat up, but racist beatings are not exactly unheard of in this country (or any other). </font>[/QUOTE]Can you unequivocally prove that the same type of beating would not have been administered under the same circumstances if the man had been white?
     
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    "Ever lived in the south? I worked in the south for ten years and got tired of what I heard and the practices I saw. Racism still occurs in some churches today in the south."---------------------------------------------------------------------

    And their are plenty of blacks who don't want whites in their church either, so if your point is that there is a few white churches that don't want blacks- I'm sure there are. But there are plenty of blacks who don't want whites either. But the vast majority of white churches would welcome a black person.
     
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    Personally I have not run into the idea that blacks not wanting whites in their church. So I cannot comment on that. For a few years I worked for a black man who went to the same church I did and never heard anything but praise from him. But he did have some stories to tell during the time of segregation in Alabama. His family changed their last name, left Alabama and moved to NY then to CA.

    NM is nothing like much of the south even today.

    Sometime take a trip into some of those areas. I lived in Austin Texas and was specifically told not to hire a black person in sales because people would not buy as much. That was in 1990 when I first arrived.
     
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    Are white people beaten by cops, ever ? Or does it just never make the news ?

    personally, I hope the officers never get their badges back. This man CLEARLY was not a threat. But let's keep the charges of racism to ourselves, unless it can be proved. (proven ?)
     
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    No, that's the beauty of it. If it hadn't been filmed, could any of it have been proven?

    I don't know whether it was racist or not; it would not surprise me either way. I believe the old man's version as the most plausible for now:
    It's been reported that Davis does not think the incident was racially motivated (or, at least, that he does not know why they beat him). The police have been under tremendous stress and a snotty remark may have been what set them off.

    I think the officers took their frustrations out on this old black guy; I believe they might have hestitated if they thought he could successfully retaliate. I believe that age, race, gender and class all figured into it.
     
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    gb93433,

    If you are not aware of black racisim, you are woefully uninformed. I know all about the South. Have a good morning, I am off to work.
     
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    How about 20 black people?
     
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    No, that's the beauty of it. If it hadn't been filmed, could any of it have been proven?

    I don't know whether it was racist or not; it would not surprise me either way.
    </font>[/QUOTE]The short answer, then , is no.

    Film is not proof of motivation.
     
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    Of course, we all know that the only place racism takes place is in the South.

    Northerners have long ago purged themselves and their cities of any semblance of racism. They set a shining example or racial acceptance and tolerance that is a model for the entire world. Major US cities outside of the South are indeed paragons of virtue when it comes to racial equality.
     

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