Political health care

Discussion in 'Politics' started by church mouse guy, Feb 12, 2006.

  1. church mouse guy

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    The media have made a political issue of health care. The major issues that the media caters to are anti-smoking and anti-obesity points of view.

    This ignores other health-care issues that are widespread in America such as mental addiction to gambling among those who spend money on the lottery and the worst of all: sodomy, protected by the Democrat Party because of political reasons.

    Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy in Media points out, "It appears that the homosexual lifestyle is as addictive as smoking."

    http://www.aim.org/media_monitor/4206_0_2_0_C/

    Equally bad is the fact that federal spending is tilted towards this Democrat group in spite of the fact that other diseases kill many more people. So we have political health care. "Not only will the media not highlight this fact, reporters shy away from the facts concerning the great disparities in federal funding favoring AIDS over other diseases."

    The country needs a true conservative as President--not an isolationist like Peroutka and not a moderate like Bush but a true conservative who bases his values on The Holy Bible.
     
  2. Terry_Herrington

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    Don't worry CMG, I'm sure Hillary will make health care one of her top priorities after the 2008 election.
     
  3. KenH

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    I think we are quickly marching toward a point of decision as to how we are going to divorce health care from employment - either through health savings accounts or through a one payer system - either the federal government becomes less involved in the health care system or takes it over completely. The current hodge podge system is moving toward collapse.
     
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    We should be screaming this from the mountaintops...

    "Just remember, that when the government is in charge of your healthcare, then they have every right to micromanage your life choices. If I am paying for your heart surgery and diabetes, then I should be allowed to dictate what you eat and when. Do you really want 300 million bosses when it comes to how you take care of yourselves?

    KenH, I'm not a conspiracy guy at all, but I think that our advocates for larger government are overjoyed at the "hodgepodge system." Because of the mess that it's in, people will call out for help--from Washington.

    When universal government healthcare becomes a reality, the number of laws and regulations (especially stupid ones) will explode.

    Just my $0.005 (after taxes).
     
  5. Jim1999

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    Love our health care in Canada. We don't have to lose our homes because we fall to illness. And,,,we don't have even 20 million bosses. I have complete control of my healthcare, choice of doctors.

    I sure wish you good health, because many working folk just can't afford otherwise.

    Cheers,

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  6. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    My grand daughter was born in Northern Ireland under a total socialised health care system.

    My son and his wife chose their own doctor, chose their hospital, a beautiful, spotless, state of the art facility, and had a tremendous pre-natal, birth, and post natal experience with toal medical care for mother and daughter.

    Their total cost for EVERYTHING associated with the birth? £0.00

    I am so grateful for the wonderful health care they received and am glad they did not have a child while they were in the States raising support. It would have cost them a fortune! Their desire was to be back in Northern Ireland before the next child was born and it looks like it is going to work out that way!
     
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    Then who paid? Surely someone had to. :confused:
     
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    The taxpayer of course, but the taxpayers also get the benefit of excellent, worry free medical care with total freedom of choice.

    I was always a harsh critic of socialised medicine until this experience. We were up for the birth and I was stunned at the quality of care. We had six children in the states spending a fortune even after insurance, and the US care was no better that what we saw up North.
     
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    Then your son and his wife paid for it through their taxes. So it did cost them.
     
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    WHAT ABOUT MERCY! YES I AM SHOUTING! nearly 50 million people are without care in my country and all the bushbots care about is how can we syphon more money to insurance companies.

    The way to to is for the church to have a massive plan to provide health care...but only 10% to 20% of people actually tithe in their church and its not exactly old testament percentages either. So will the church succeed or should a sovereign God provide.

    Thank You Jim from Canada for a little mercy and
    C4K ...we are to meet needs of those who cannot
    afford or who are poor and we are not doing it
    or we want to tie the hands of church and government but instead line the pockets of insurance pharisees, sadduces, and taxgatherers who look like Ken Lay.

    and btw it is the middle class that has to file for bankruptcy when a massive health costs hits them unexpectedly.
     
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    Yep. Apparently that is what that awful Medicare prescription drug plan that the Congress so unwisely passed was about. From what I am hearing it is an absolute nightmare for senior citizens to deal with.
     
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    They had no income tax, as they would not in the States. They also wer enot paying a massive insurance bill every month.


    However, don't ask me about socialised medicine in the Republic of Ireland :( . It is what everyone in the States fears would happen.
     
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    I am greatful for the military and Tricare even though it is not perfect I should be covered for life.

    When I was stationed in England and wife was pregnant with my first kid she was having some complications with the medication she was on. It would cause severe abdomen pain to the point where I had to call their 911 equivolent service. The ambulance arrived and took her in to the hospital where they checked her over and assurred our son was ok. To make a very long story short, after we were free to leave the hospital it was so weird that we filled out zero paperwork with health plans or deductibles and just said goodbye to the doctors and staff with no bills to worry about.

    I am not a huge fan of National health due to some flaws, but minus the military and other good health plans for certain jobs, our health care stinks! You would think someone could come up with something better for the typical Joe Blow and family.
     
  14. church mouse guy

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    Well, of course, it is wrong to say what A-pal posted here:

    "WHAT ABOUT MERCY! YES I AM SHOUTING! nearly 50 million people are without care in my country and all the bushbots care about is how can we syphon more money to insurance companies"

    No one is without care; some are without insurance.

    I would imagine that welfare coverage in the States is equal to socialized medicine. Of course, we know that the socialized medicine states are not doing research and development because they have trouble funding their welfare program and research and development is out of the question.

    What is tiresome about the USA is the constant drumbeat about eating and smoking and the neglect of warning about the dangers of being sodomized. But then state governments have turned the working poor into gambling addicts with state lotteries and superjackpots so government is not your friend.

    FDR said it best--welfare is a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the soul.

    Why do so many otherwise normal people want a welfare state?
     

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