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POLL: Woman for President

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, Oct 29, 2005.

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  1. I am a Political CONSERVATIVE woman & would vote for Republican woman.

    33.3%
  2. I am a Political CONSERVATIVE man & would vote for a Republican woman.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. I am a Political LIBERAL woman & would vote for a Republican woman.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. I am a Political LIBERAL man & would vote for a Republican woman.

    2.0%
  5. I am a Political CONSERVATIVE woman & would vote for a Democratic woman.

    2.0%
  6. I am a Political CONSERVATIVE man & would vote for a Democratic woman.

    5.9%
  7. I am a Political LIBERAL woman & would vote for a Democratic woman.

    3.9%
  8. I am a Political LIBERAL man & would vote for a Democratic woman.

    33.3%
  9. I am Political CONSERVATIVE & would NEVER vote for a WOMAN for President!

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. I am a Political LIBERAL & would NEVER vote for a WOMAN for President!

    11.8%
  11. Conservative & NOT SURE.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. Liberal & NOT SURE.

    5.9%
  13. INDEPENDENT & WOULD vote for Third Party woman.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  14. INDEPENDENT & would NOT vote for Third Party woman.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. Independent & not sure.

    2.0%
  16. Ya'll leave me alone. I don't want to vote. Period.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. hillclimber

    hillclimber New Member

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    I am not counted among them. I prefer males in these roles, but if a Margaret Thatcher becomes available, and a better man is not available, it's OK with me, but not ideal.
     
  2. hillclimber

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    Boy the feminists have exceeded far beyond their expectations, based on the thoughts expressed here.

    How about sending all our young ladies to war with the young men if a draft becomes necessary in the future?
    Do you want the average trained female or male to rescue your loved ones in a fire/accident where strength and endurance are important?
    How about the plumber you are paying $60 and hour to dig a 5 ft. ditch in the back yard to repair a line?
    How about the State Trooper, that has pulled over the 250 lb. drunk driver?
    Why does the military have to have 2 sets of standards for fitness, if we're all equal?
     
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    I agree, saying one sex is inherently superior to the other when sex itself is not always concretely determined is silly.
     
  4. Scott J

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    This always bothered me. It's like the politicians who forced those rules of equality had a total disconnect.

    The survival requirements in warfare aren't going to make a 4 minute exception for women if they are required to run 2 miles. The enemy isn't going to take it easier on her since she scored 100 points on push ups by doing about half of what a man must do.

    If you want equality of opportunity then it should be determined by absolute equal standards.
     
  5. Scott J

    Scott J Active Member
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    Oh, btw. I am a libertarian leaning conservative who would vote for a woman if she demonstrated strong leadership abilities and agreed with my ideology the most.
     
  6. Fishnbread

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    Please people let's not give in to satanic nonsense. God created men and women for two different purposes, he gave both of them different ratios of talents and demanded that they act accordingly God did not nor has he ever intended for a woman to lead any adult man or men. God does not care how we feel on the subject because he knows that you and I are wicked and sinful by nature and when left alone will go after our own brand of righteousness, ASIDE FROM HIS! In the book of Tim God clearly forbids female leadership: "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." Tim 2:12 he goes on to tell why women are not to have authority over men: "For Adam was first formed, then Eve." Tim 2:13. Herse the cold hard hitter, Ready for this?: AND ADAM WAS NOT DECEIVED, BUT THE WOMAN BEING DECEIVED WAS IN THE TRANSGRESSION. Theres a reason why God gave the authority to men back in Genesis and good old Tim is pointing it out. You say what you want about equality, But God never intended it to be so, God loves our differences and wants us to embrace our strengths and aknowlege our weakness for it was he who gave them to us when he designed our genetic codes, thats why there are painters, biologists, arcitects, because God knows all these positions have to be filled.

    Now Go ahead bash me? Im waiting!
    :mad: :mad: :mad:

    No just kidding, but feed back would be nice, and please save your personal insults?

    Your servant
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  7. hillclimber

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    No bash from here Fishbread. I was trying to say the same thing but you have better words for it.
     
  8. Gina B

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    I'd vote for the candidate that best fit the description of someone who would lead and make decisions in the fear of God.

    I no longer associate with any political party. The candidate could be from any party, provided they meet the above criteria.

    The gender of a candidate doesn't make a bit of difference.
     
  9. Fishnbread

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    Posted by hillclimber
    Thanks hillclimber, it feels good to have somebody not try to assasinate my character simply because my views are different and I hold true to God's standards. So cheers to you for that.

    [​IMG]

    Your servant
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  10. Gina B

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    Wow. I asked a male bagger at the grocery store to help me carry stuff to my car.
    I guess I wasn't being in silence.
    I told a male moderator to set up my table for a speech the other day.
    Here's a cold hard hitter. :rolleyes: All men might be saved. It didn't say women.

    It's kind of important to know when to take things at face value and when to read more than one verse. Almost always, it's the latter.
     
  11. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Becasue they can never make up their minds...hence the label...moderates. [​IMG]

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  12. bruren777

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    Hey Joe, I must take issue with you on that one. Women can make up their minds! My wife did when she decided that the best thing she ever did when she knew I was the one for her.

    I'm probably going to take some heat for that one!
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  13. Joseph_Botwinick

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    It is funny...but I am not sure if you read my post close enough. I was not referring to women in that post...although I am certainly understanding how you made the mistake. [​IMG]

    &lt;ducking&gt;

    Joseph Botwinick :D
     
  14. Fishnbread

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    Posted by GinaL
    What do you think you suppose your trying to say? Because Im confused on just what your point is, is it that the Bible should not be followed? or is it that it should not be followed on a literal basis? what are you trying to say? If you even know! not to insult your intelligence or any thing.

    Your servant
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  15. Gina B

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    I'm saying that the verses you posted have no meaning whatsoever with women being involved in jobs such as judge, president, office manager, etc..
    For you to take that verse in a manner that literally applies it to every situation in life is as ridiculous as if you were to say that anytime a woman speaks, it is wrong, for she is to be silent.

    Can you honestly tell me that you would have a clear conscious voting for an atheist male candidate rather than a God-fearing female candidate by virtue of their respective anatomies?
     
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    Posted by GinaL
    First off your wrong I believe that a woman can be in a leadership position when it comes to business because in the book of Proverbs when David is speaking of the virtuous woman he states that one of her qualities is that she owns a business so your assirtion that I said the verse is to be applied to all situations was just plain wrong. Secondly I do believe that politically a woman is not to take authority and Tim 2:12 will back me on that, I believe that the reason why God ordained it that way is because of what happened in Eden, let me remind every body that Satan got Adam through Eve the reason being is because he knew first that Adam would be much more suspicious , and second because he knew Adam had a soft spot for Eve. That's why God would have no woman lead a man and the book of Tim will back me on that too.

    Your servant
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  17. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    I wasn't going to post because we have been through this on another thread.

    I am a Biblical literalist. My Bible never mentions anything about forbidding women to have a leadership role in politics.

    Would you also insist that all women, in every situation submit to the teaching of 1 Timothy 2v11? Applying this in the contect of your claim, women should have NO political voice at all and should never express their views on politics.
     
  18. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Roger,

    I agree with you personally. I would, however, point out that there are some Baptists on this board who would state that very thing.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  19. Fishnbread

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    Posted by C4K
    First off welcome to the thread. Question! why do you think God gave the authority to Adam in the garden after the fall? Second question if your a bible literalist why do you never follow the bible literally?

    Your servant
    Fishnbread
     
  20. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Answer my question about 1 Timothy 2v11 first ;) .

    Adam and Eve were a family, husband and wife, I do not see this as being a requirement for all of mankind. Otherwise woman could NEVER have ANY authority over a man in ANY situation.

    Whoops - missed the point about the fact that I "never" follow the Bible literally - thats an interesting question and impossible to answer. I thought I had followed the Bible literally at least once in my life.
     
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