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Polygamist Family Tree

Discussion in '2008 Archive' started by Squire Robertsson, May 8, 2008.

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  1. Waremock

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    I understand that was the way it was intended..and so was eating a vegan diet in the beginning....then after the fall they were free to eat things other then fruits and plants. kwim.


    I don't see anywhere scriptually where *God* condems having more then one wife. If you are married to several..then there is no adultry going on. Of course I have my hands full with one wife. I am just interested in the bibical course of it.

    If it were legal...would todays christians have many wives I wonder.
     
  2. sag38

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    Where in the Bible did any man benefit from having more than one wife? Correct me if I'm wrong, but based on the Biblical account a man would be a fool to have more than one wife. Can you say "dysfunctional?"
     
  3. donnA

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    2 shall become 1, not 5 or 6 shall become,,,,
    what would that be,
    something not biblical.
     
  4. donnA

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    Does that mean you want more then oen wife or what?
     
  5. donnA

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    Not if they are bible believing christians who seek to glorify God.
    Where in the N.T. does anyone see a man is allowed more then one wife?
    If a married man sleeps with someone else thats adultry.
    You have to be able to take biblical principles and apply them to life.
     
  6. Ed Edwards

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    Amen, Sister donnA -- You are so RIGHT ON! :thumbs:



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  7. Magnetic Poles

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    Shoot no! That means multiple mothers-in-law!! :eek:
     
  8. Ed Edwards

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    Actually not, not in the FLDS group. A guy marries several sisters so only has one or two mother-in-law. Anyway, the wives, if not sisters are cousins (both of each other and of the husband). There is so much inbreeding going on it looks to me like (about three closeups) that all the women have Marfan's Syndrome (extremely tall and thin, especially fingers). In the past people with Marfan's Syndrome hardly lived past 50. Seen any 50+ FLDS members?
     
  9. Emily25069

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    Well, I for one have the same question as Magnetic Poles

    and the reason I have this question is because of the Old Testament and how much God seemed to work with men who had more than one wife or a concubine.

    Why was this sin not judged harshly by God instead of it being seemingly condoned?

    In Deut 21, vs. 15 it says as part of the law..

    15"If a man has two wives, the one loved and (I)the other unloved, and both the loved and the unloved have borne him sons, if the firstborn son belongs to the unloved,
    16then it shall be in the day he wills what he has to his sons, he cannot make the son of the loved the firstborn before the son of the unloved, who is the firstborn.

    In deut 17:17, the warning is to not take "too many wives" or not to "multiply wives to yourself" else your heart will turn away. It does not say to take only one wife.

    To me, it seems like that would have been the perfect oppurtunity for God to condemn the practice.


    Now.. I definately see where the NEW testament says one man and one woman, and as a Christian I believe that that is right.

    On the other hand, I have heard Pastors say that God never approved of men having more than one wife, and yet I dont see God condemning it in the old testament either. And he seems to bless many of the men who had more than one wife in huge ways. They are the fathers of the Jewish faith and mighty men of God. How can this be if polygamy was horribly sinful at the time? Isnt it possible that that is how God chose to deal with Israel at the time? I mean, they all had idols and such and God certainly spoke harshly about that, but I dont see much condemnation when it comes to polygamy.

    Anyway.. I guess I just dont see how Magnetic Poles question is so far off. Then again, a lot of things in the old testament throw me off.




    Gideon had 70 sons, because he had many wives (judges 8:30)

    David had 2 wives (and concubines)

    There are so many other examples that I actually find it hard to believe that most of you find it a strange question.
     
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    Now see, thats smart, why don't the men from the cult see that, lol
     
  11. donnA

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    There were always consequences to multiple wives in the O.T. one of which was they caused godly men to stray from God and worship false gods. I think of Solomon, who had 700 wives and 400 concubines, and he began to worship in the high places(false gods). God allows us as christian to make choices, and then we must accept the consequences.
    I know this doesn't exactly answer you, sorry.
     
  12. Emily25069

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    I guess I just wonder why it wasnt in the law that a man should only have one wife... or even if it wasnt in the law, why wasnt it mentioned elsewhere?

    It just doesnt seem to be condemned by God. Sure there were consequences. I do see that, but I also see what appears to be God working with the way they chose to do things and that was to have more than 1 wife.
     
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    FTR, actually David had at least 7 wives. Michal, Abigail, Ahinoam, Eglah, then two or more who are not named (II Sam. 5:13), and Bathsheba, that I am aware of.

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    Emily, what you see isn't God's approval of multiple wives, what you see is God's allowing man to make what was obviously bad choices. Just like He allows you to do. If this was alright with God, completely in His will for man what you see in scripture is His blessing it, which I don't see. I'm not sure, but no where is anyone told to have multiple wives, or given God's approval and blessing for multiple wives.
    If marriage is a picture of Jesus's relationship with the church, and it is compared that way several times in scripture. Then multiple wives is a faulty picture of that relationship. What it would picture is infadelity and adultry in that relationship.
     
  15. Emily25069

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    Donna

    Its not that I dont agree with you. (its just that I dont agree with you.. chuckle)

    I believe that what you are saying is true.

    But I just wonder why it is never condemmed, and in fact, men were blessed who had more than one wife. Why is sexual sin such as homosexuality and beastiality mentioned, but not having multiple wives?
     
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    I don't know why. But the bible is silent on a lot of subjects. It doesn't make them ok, it just means we have to search and apply what we do know about the bible. We do know that when married to one woman, s*x with anyother woman is adultry. There are too many strict, rules, for lack of a better word, in the N.T. about marriage for there to be freedom for multiple wives.
    Why He didn't expressly say, not more then one wife at a time, I don't know.
     
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    http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/bustupinbountiful/interviews_winston.html

    This is an interview with the former bishop of Bountiful, BC, Winston Blackmore, Jan. 2006 by Hana Gartner, investigative reporter for the CBC.

    Gartner spent months back in 2003, gaining Blackmore's trust before he would grant her the first interview. She did this second interview with Blackmore, 3 years later in Jan. 2006.

    You can read Blackmore's resonses here to her questions, but try to watch the video clip too (it's just over 1/2 hour long) - right hand sidebar. It's an eye-opener into the world of polygamy and the connection between all of these secretive communities.
     
  18. donnA

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    Interesting.

    Wife swapping, that always good and godly.
    I wonder if these are still considered marriages? Is there anyone here who would consider a 2nd or 3rd wife a real wife(and I know there are), and then she becomes someone elses real wife after the swap?
     
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