Pope Warns of Anti-Semitism, Xenophobia

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  1. Enoch

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    :eek:
    Fox News
     
  2. mioque

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    I'm surprised at your shock.
    Ratzinger didn't say, or do anything unusual.
    Fox News discretely did not mention any Jewish criticism.
     
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    This excerpt pretty much says it all:

    Benedict's visit appeared to have helped smooth over a dispute between the Vatican and Israel that arose after the Israeli government faulted Benedict for not mentioning attacks on Israelis in a recent condemnation of terrorism. The Vatican responded with a terse statement asking the Israelis not to tell the pope what to say.

    He was obviously counseled to make this statement as part of a PR campaign. Its all politics with this group.
     
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    Actually, Ratzinger is infamous for writing all his own speeches and never listening to pr experts.
    Both this speech and the earlier deliberate coldshouldering of Israel in his condemnation of terrorism are perfectly straightforward expressions of his real opinions.

    Yes, that is far more disturbing than if he were simply listening to focusgroups, or pr experts.
     
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    So you are saying that this recent speech was insincere?
     
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    No.
    I'm saying he was completely sincere both times...
     
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    And here we have a bit Jewish criticism conveniantly ignore by FOXnews.

    "One issue of contention between Jews and Catholics rose during the visit. The president of the Cologne congregation, Albraham Lehrer, said it would be "a good thing" for the Vatican to open up all its archives from World War II. The Vatican archives are accessible up to 1939, but many Jewish groups would like to explore the records relating to Pius XII, accused of remaining silent during the Holocaust. "
    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/19/international/europe/19cnd-pope.html

    And from the same article, the opinions from the folks onsite concerning the recent diplomatic incident between Israel and Vatican City.

    "There was no mention on either side of a bitter diplomatic spat between Israel and the Vatican. Last month, after the London bombings, Israel accused the pope of deliberately omitting a mention of a suicide bombing against Israelis in a list of terror attacks that the pope had listed in a sermon.

    The Vatican fired back, calling some of Israel's retaliatory attacks against Palestinians as contrary to international law.

    Mr. Spiegel said he felt the problem was a diplomatic one, not important to talk about during the visit.

    "This is an issue that has to be settled between the state of Israel and the Vatican," Mr. Spiegel told reporters at a news conference.

    Mr. Navarro-Valls added at the same news conference that the "issue has been settled more or less."
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