Php 1:15 Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. Php 1:16 The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. Php 1:17 The former proclaim Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. There are some on this board who claim it is their job to be sharp tongued in debates over doctrine and they persist on beating people up over everything they can think of. The debates that go on on this board are not done out of a desire for Christian fellowship and discussion but to beat people up, to beat people down, to prove those who disagree with them are wrong. It is done out of a rivarly and has nothing to do with the good will of the others. There are some who are just wanting to give a theological beat down out of selfish ambition with no sincerity involved. They use debate tactics instead of honest conversation. It is about winning, rivarly, and selfish ambition to be right and make sure the other is seen as wrong. It is time it has changed.