POTUS Birth Certificate: A Scan or Scam ? ? ?

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  1. righteousdude2

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    The following video has started to circulate on the web, and I'm surprised it has not already appeared on the BB. Anyway, I guess the birthers are not going away quietly with the recent release of the "Official BC"" by the WH. . .

    The best way to decide the authenticity of that BC is to have an expert(s) opinion, therefore, take a gander at this and draw your own conclusions!

    Is this simply a last gasp attempt (sour grapes by those who believed with their heart and soul that he was not born in the US) by the birthers, or can there be some truth in what is presented?

    Your honest comments following the review of the video attached below, would be appreciated. Maybe some of you who are experts in what this man presents on the video, can add additional comments about what he may be talking about?

    Video: http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/1089.html

    Shalom,

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  2. Salty

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    If you tell a lie often enough, you will believe it. I am talking about the birthers - not Obama.

    We still have people who believe the earth is flat

    Even with the short form, I contended he was born in H-50. I did want to see the long form as there were many valid questions. Just let it be and work on defeating this extreme liberal in '12.

    Just curious the video, who actually did the "research"
     
  3. preachinjesus

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    This whole thing isn't about a birth certificate its about people who have a serious dislike (bordering on hatred) for our President.

    And they sound stupid making their claims.

    Honestly I fully believe that most of the hardcore birthers wouldn't believe President Obama's birth claims (as proven by the document in hand) even if they were put in a time machine, transported back to the delivery room in Hawaii on the day of the President's birth.

    The flat earth analogy is a great one.
     
  4. poncho

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    The whole thing is about upholding the law. PERIOD! The law states quite clearly that Obama is ineligible to be POTUS. I think those who make the claim that because he was born in somehow Hawaii makes him eligible sound quite stupid myself. Why? Because it makes no difference if he was born in the United States!

    The man is not an Article II natural born citizen. That's the law. Plain and simple. Y'all keep harping about how much "birthers" hate the man posing as president and how the "birthers" are racists and all that bunk. Why don't you come clean and just admit you hate the constitution? I mean that is what disqualifies him.

    Look, . . .

    To be eligible to hold the office of POTUS one has to meet certain requirements. One very important requirement is that he must be an Article II natural born citizen.

    He is not. To qualify as an Article II natural born citizen one has to have been born to two citizen parents. Obama was not born to two citizen parents. His mother was a citizen and his father was a foreigner.

    It makes no difference if he were born in the United States. He could have been born in NYC and have three truckloads of documents and seven trillion witnesses to prove it and he still would not be eligible to hold the office of POTUS because his father was never a citizen of the United States.

    What is so hard to understand about that?

    All those who make the claim that because Obama was born in Hawaii somehow makes him eligible to be POTUS are barking up the wrong tree entirely! His BC whether real or forged still does not make him eligible. Now if you all could jump in a time machine and travel back to when Obama was born and make his father a citizen of the United States the place of his birth might make a difference. But until you can do that it doesn't. Until you can prove his father was citizen of the United States the man is going to be an imposter and a usurper according to the constitution of the United States, the law he himself swore an oath to defend and protect.

    It's every citizens duty to defend and protect the constitution from exactly this kind of blatant usurpation.
     
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  5. righteousdude2

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    Good question. I just assumed that the person presenting the information on the video is the person behind this most recent video!

    And yes, you are 100% correct. We need to find a candidate who can actually overcome the Obama mystique and win in 2012.

    However, the recent news of him releasing the BC and five days later releasing the news that the US killed Bin Laden is only going to make his star shine that much more in the vast darkness of the void of good leaders.
     
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    and more important what are his credentials
     
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    1. There is no indication of a physical seal on the internet one, while one of the news gals said she had seen the original and felt the seal???????????

    2. I sat with one of the OR Rep. leaders awhile back and he was talking of finding someone that could beat Obama. I told him all I heard from the leadership was the same old song and dance. I told him I thought if they would find out what the Rep. party was, what it was going to stand for - then the man would come along and rise or fall on moral principle instead of winning.

    They still speak only of winning. Later in the discussion he was talking about how they were vetting all the state office seekers so well - that they were really going over everything to find only the best people.

    Bit later he mentioned the candidate they had picked for a state rep seat I think it was. Within five minutes he was telling me that they found out later that she had hired illegals to work on her farm. Some VETTING eh?

    We have no one at this point worth voting for and have my doubts they will when the time comes. They have been concentrating on winning rather than standing for something.

    Unless Obama completely crashes and burns I'd guess we are going to get four to 50 more years of him. Read into that what you will :-(
     
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    Well now that Obama single handedly killed Osama Bin Laden just in time to kick off his campaign he'll be the toast of the town. Funny how Bin Laden always seems to pop up just when he's needed most to boost a campaigner's sagging numbers. He did the same for Bush many a time. I'm kinda surprised Bush didn't hire him as a campaign manager. I mean he did so much to help him get re-elected and all.

    Now it looks as though he's working with the Obama campaign. Guess Bin Laden just has no party loyalty at all.
     
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    >The whole thing is about upholding the law. PERIOD!

    Why THIS thing and not other things? Why not freeway speed limits?
     
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    When PhotoRepaired.com was still a company I was the owner and the Graphics Artist that did all the work. I have produced many composite photos and documents for a wide variety of reasons. I have watched this video and just as I have attested here and on other forums, this Tech. is correct in his assessment of this particular document. He has used the same techniques I would use if the legality of a particular document were called into question and all I can add is that he has reached the same conclusions that I would if I were called to examine the document.
     
  11. righteousdude2

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    Thanks for Your Comments

    Finally, someone provided an opinion of the post video and the findings. The guy seemed to know what he was talking about, and you have lent him credence! :thumbsup:
     
  12. poncho

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    Beacuse I happen to be a real natural born citizen of the United States and it's my duty to my country to protect and defend the U.S. Constituion against all enemies foreign and domestic.

    Somebody has to do it billwald there ain't all that many around willing to do it.

    And I don't go over the speed limit when I'm driving so I can say that yes I do uphold freeway speed limits.
     
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    How about a one-hour driving session with me. I'm sure you would break several laws.... (hey, Billwald - you want to ride along with us, esp if you have an extra book - if you know what I mean....)

    Salty
    certified Driving instructor
     
  14. poncho

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    I try not to break any laws Salty but with several million of em on the books sometimes it's hard to know about them all.
     
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    Buenas dias amigo,
    excuse my possible spelling error, at 66 I have just found a reason to learn the language I should have learn 40 to fifty years ago. Poncho, ignore silly comments, there are many that do not make the effort to live as God has called them to do and they always seek to pull those of us that do down to their level to justify their ignoring the Righteous Life.

    Que Dios los bendiga y adios!
     

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